BGLO origins - Page 6

#76 08-17-2000, 01:54 PM

Thanks for the clarification.

#77 08-18-2000, 12:33 AM

Thank You for the luv Ice Cold Kreator. I hasad a question about your first sentence in your reply Corbin Dallas. When you say APhiO are you referring to Alpha Phi Omega? Could you clarify what you meant when you referenced NIC?

DIRTY-BILL CLINTON · #78 08-21-2000, 05:44 PM

ICYTRE, Where did I get my information? Where did you get yours? A pledge line and a frat history book? I am known and accepted amoung bretheren and fellows...Have been tried, never denied, and ready to be tried again...TRY ME! having said that....I am a MASON. I have been raised from a dead level to a living perpendicular on the square. My age is over 27, and I am very much so informed.
My information comes from a much higher source than APhiA history. I refuse to try to discuss your stuff so quit confronting me with it.
You say that I just speak words because your knowledge is limited to pledging in a frat.
You know the frat but not the orgin of the frat. Do you really think that the orgin of fraternities started in 1906? I hope not.

Ice,
What I was explicitly referring to was that before APhiA, Black men and women were already in a fraternity/sorority(Masonry/Eastern Star) doing the stuff that you say I should not underestimate. There are far more Masons and Eastern Stars than any organization. And, I am sorry to inform you that they have done a lot more than APhiA prior to APhiA's inception(ie.UNDERGROUND RAILROAD). In fact ask some of your bruhs who are Masons, because they are my frat bruhs also. Some of your founders were Masons. I don't need to be an Alpha to know simple info.

None of you can challenge me on any of your history because it is not a secret. Your ritual may be, but not your history.

Masonry encompasses all that you do. ALL.
Where did your founders get the grips you use? The three stage process? The Egyptian mystical system? What does the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd stage ellude to. What does the number 3 ellude to? What is your grip called? What does that ellude to? What are the perfect points of entrance? What is light? Can you solve the riddle of the sphynx? Black and Gold is not new...we wear black to bury the dead and light illuminates all for the revealing of knowledge and prosperity. Some of you Alphas question that which is already answered. You should not find favor in boasting about 06 & 08 and who was started first and so on. It is difficult for you to understand because you are blinded by misdemeanor issues. APhiA, the first BGLO....Cool....If it had not been for APhiA....xyz...would not existed. That makes a lot of sense. Plenty of Blacks died for the existence of Masonry. APhiA didn't compromise what Masons did. Masonry existed amoungst slavery and abject humanation in the early 1500's.

No my comments aren't dilluted, I just don't have enough time to teach a dot com club about stuff they fail to accept.

icytre · #79 08-21-2000, 07:04 PM

DirtyBillClinton,
You appear to be informed on some things. (keyword is appear) First of all, Alphas have never begun to attempt to take anything away from the Masons. We know that fraternities and sororities are rooted in Masonry. The question is, where is Masonry rooted? Africa? Europe? This might not be the proper avenue of communication for this topic or even to be discussed with me. I can only go by what I see, and to be honest, I don't see what Masons are doing in today's society. Once again, not taking anything from your organization, just conversation.

Ice Cold Kreator · #80 08-22-2000, 03:46 AM

Dirty Bill,

No one is not giving your orgnaization credit...

But Alpha IS something Special...and while our founders maybe Masons...THEY ARE Still ALPHAs...

Do you know if they were Alphas or Masons first?

Secondly, unlike Masons....black Greek organizations require a degree of education.

I refuse to argue with you about the merit of ALPHA...

Our organizations are not solely based on yours...even though we do have our roots there...BGLOs do something a little different.

Call me when the Masons start doing mentoring to today's troubled teens. (not as individuals, but as an organization)

And another thing, you can't know my organization like I know it!!! It's just not possible! -- unless you are a member!

Holla at me Icytre!-- I'm trying to hold it up!

06,

Ice Cold Kreator

P.S. people always hate...when Alphas say we are first...we are...just deal with it...it's not an arguable point. Its a point of FACT!!!

Ice Cold Kreator · #81 08-22-2000, 03:49 AM

Dirty Bill,

No one is not giving your orgnaization credit...

But Alpha IS something Special...and while our founders maybe Masons...THEY ARE Still ALPHAs...

Do you know if they were Alphas or Masons first?

Secondly, unlike Masons....black Greek organizations require a degree of education.

I refuse to argue with you about the merit of ALPHA...

Our organizations are not solely based on yours...even though we do have our roots there...BGLOs do something a little different.

Call me when the Masons start doing mentoring to today's troubled teens. (not as individuals, but as an organization)

And another thing, you can't know my organization like I know it!!! It's just not possible! -- unless you are a member!

Holla at me Icytre!-- I'm trying to hold it up!

06,

Ice Cold Kreator

P.S. people always hate...when Alphas say we are first...we are...just deal with it...it's not an arguable point. Its a point of FACT!!!

kaidi06 · #82 08-23-2000, 02:29 PM

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icytre · #83 08-23-2000, 07:39 PM

APHIIIII!!!!

When you have one Alpha in your presence, you're alright!

When you have more than one Alpha in your presence, you're even better!!

Cardiac · #84 07-03-2002, 06:45 AM

I am a member of Groove PHi Groove so if you have questions about my brotherhood holla at me. ONE

jimmie430 · #85 10-12-2008, 08:30 AM

well i am and will always be a proud member of wine psi phi and i was on that line at vsu that fateful night when we lost our dear brother and sister so for you idiots to belittle our organization is ridiculous. get all the facts be fore you talk ish

knight_shadow · #86 10-12-2008, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmie430

well i am and will always be a proud member of wine psi phi and i was on that line at vsu that fateful night when we lost our dear brother and sister so for you idiots to belittle our organization is ridiculous. get all the facts be fore you talk ish

This thread is six years old.

Senusret I · #87 10-13-2008, 11:03 AM

This thread was also mostly wack.

KAPital PHINUst · #88 10-13-2008, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmie430

well i am and will always be a proud member of wine psi phi and i was on that line at vsu that fateful night when we lost our dear brother and sister so for you idiots to belittle our organization is ridiculous. get all the facts be fore you talk ish

Nobody here was belittling your organization, calm down.

ChrlzinChrg · #89 05-19-2009, 03:02 PM

Call me when the Masons start doing mentoring to today's troubled teens. (not as individuals, but as an organization)

And another thing, you can't know my organization like I know it!!! It's just not possible! -- unless you are a member!

Masonry was not founded on the principles of manly deeds, scholarship, and love for all mankind. Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Incorporated was.

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These two items interest me. WOW this IS and old board. Masonry while founded on religious principles, has always possessed the manly deeds of scholarship and love for all mankind (that is what being "God-like" is). In terms of mentoring today's troubled teens, we shelter them and we TEACH them (and adults) that God is love. Been doing it for centuries.

We cannot KNOW your individual organizations like only YOU may know it but if you find no similarities to what was founded through Masonry in anything that you do then you have my apologies for thinking otherwise. We have a ritual that surrounds various teachings from the word of God himself. We seek to enlighten our initiates with what Masonry is and why it is. We walk a certain way. We have a sacred handshake and we simply choose to keep the specifics of these aspects secret from the non-masonic member. Again, let us apologize for assuming there are any similar practices going on in your organizations.

In terms of Egypt and The Mystery system, I can only laugh because these Civilizations were built by Masons as they were "operatively" called who felt the need to bond of brotherhood in lieu of the Speculative mason who actually did the Physical labor.

We have always been involved in the social aspect of humanity. We formed Governments like the USA. Founded Institutions of higher learning (Universities and Colleges), created and still create the laws of all lands in respect to decency and its importance to humanity. AS A GROUP. And, members of your organizations who are Masons and Eastern Stars would proudly agree because this does not exclude them. So to say that you have not seen anything we have done is the same as telling some of the very founders of your very organizations (and every new member since) that they did nothing.

In digression, Mr. Clinton (wherever he may be now, was wrong) wrong for blatantly attempting to disturb common sense with ignorance. As a Mason, I would like to apologize for his childish disrespect to the very foundation of what we all call Fraternity. Brotherhood and Sisterhood especially amongst African Americans means love of each other..unconditionally (Because its God like). If he were any kind of respectable Freemason, then he would not have posted a word. There are far more things on our plates as of today, that are more important than who sH&*ted first.

Who loved first? And who died first? For US to even have an organization of any kind? Start there and move in peace.

God Bless.

MysticCat · #90 05-19-2009, 03:17 PM

^^^. Seriously? You're responding to 9-year-old posts in a "mostly wack" (thanks, Sen) thread?