Student suspended for facebook slam against teacher

[Ooh La La]

TOMORROW IS NATIONAL "MEAN GIRLS STATUS DAY" ON FACEBOOK!

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?ei...8607603&ref=mf

[DaemonSeid]

Other similar cases up for legal review

[Ooh La La]

Whoa whoa whoa. I don't agree with this post Colombine talk. I go to Virginia Tech and if we cancelled class every time someone called a teacher a name, we'd have the whole semester off.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by Ooh La La

Whoa whoa whoa. I don't agree with this post Colombine talk. I go to Virginia Tech and if we cancelled class every time someone called a teacher a name, we'd have the whole semester off.

Truth

[DrPhil]

No one is talking about cancelling class everytime a student calls a teacher a name. That's almost everyday fodder for many schools, especially large state schools.

Faculty and staff at VTech are trained in how to deal with students calling them names and issuing perceived threats. They were trained in that before the VTech shooting and reminded after the shooting with some policy changes. That includes discussions of panic buttons in classrooms and the forwarding of emails to administration. This is how it is at VTech and the majority of colleges and universities. For a darn good reason.

And I remind students that while faculty were once students, the students have never been faculty so they need to think about all the good and potential bad that goes into interacting with, and speaking before, students everyday. The petition for criminal, mental, and emotional background checks for students has been deemed a bad idea for most institutions.

[Ooh La La]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

And I remind students that while faculty were once students, the students have never been faculty so they need to think about all the good and potential bad that goes into interacting with, and speaking before, students everyday.

I never really thought of that. It's a very good point.

[DaemonSeid]

Well at the point when shots are going off, you'd be too busy running to pause.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Lesson learned: Think before you speak. Either shut up about it or express it in a more discreet manner. That also applies to college students who think it is wise to blast professors on the Internet. Discretion and appropriate behavior are things that should be learned long before they go through GLO recruitment.

That's why I am smh at everyone that keeps yelling, "Well he had the right to do it!" Just because you have a RIGHT to say something doesn't mean that you won't be held accountable for it later.

Sure, you have the right to say whatever the hell you want. Someone else has the right to not hire you, not let you into their school or not do business with you. Just ask Michael, Don and Isiah.

This kid may wind up going to court and win...sure...but down the line if someone thinks about hiring him and yes, those court records can be sealed since he is a minor, the fact that he was in the news and the news record is an 'unofficial public record' documenting something that happened in your life that you were involved in, can adversely affect you being hired.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Well at the point when shots are going off, you'd be too busy running to pause.

And afterwards, people would be looking for after-the-fact CLUES. OMG, he created that facebook fan page! OMG, he was always bitching about life! OMG, he wanted to buy guns but we thought he was just a collector. OHHHHHEMMMMMGEEEEE!!!!!! Why didn't we catch these sooner?!?! We missed the warning signs!!!! Stooopid us?!?!?!?!?

[Ooh La La]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

And afterwards, people would be looking for after-the-fact CLUES. OMG, he created that facebook fan page! OMG, he was always bitching about life! OMG, he wanted to buy guns but we thought he was just a collector. OHHHHHEMMMMMGEEEEE!!!!!! Why didn't we catch these sooner?!?! We missed the warning signs!!!! Stooopid us?!?!?!?!?

That's the type of thing that's happening at VT right now. And while some administrators did report the bastard that shot up my school, it never really penetrated the higher levels. The worst way to learn a lesson? Yes. But you still have to have that line before the policing becomes too much.

[DaemonSeid]

as you said... "well duh."

Sometimes it's just better keeping some things to yourself.

Something else too, as I was jsut discussing this with s/o, I told her that sometimes if you are that pissed off, or you feeling shadey, why not do what you need to do anonymously!!!!

[AGDee]

Interestingly, and possibly sort of related, my daughter's high school created a fan page on Facebook and kids starting becoming a fan right and left. I noticed my daughter had not and asked her why. She said "Whoever started that page can see all your personal stuff if you become their fan and I'm concerned people will start getting in trouble for what they put on Facebook" And she's a straight A student, Girl Scout, band geek who would probably not do or say anything that would get her in trouble, but she's smart enough to realize that it might not be the wisest thing to join that page, not knowing who has access to the info!

My mother ALWAYS said, never put anything in writing that you wouldn't want published in the newspaper. This applies to the 'net too.

[UGAalum94]

AGDee,

I don't think being a fan of something does actually give them access to all of your info, but better safe than sorry.

From Facebook:

"Page privacy for fans
Can a Page see my information if I become a fan?

Pages cannot see the profiles of their fans. They can only see the profile photo and name of each of their fans. In addition, Pages do not receive a News Feed with information about what their fans are doing. Pages can communicate with their fans through updates in your Inbox, but they have no additional access to your personal information."

[annabella]

Originally Posted by AGDee

"Whoever started that page can see all your personal stuff if you become their fan and I'm concerned people will start getting in trouble for what they put on Facebook" And she's a straight A student, Girl Scout, band geek who would probably not do or say anything that would get her in trouble, but she's smart enough to realize that it might not be the wisest thing to join that page, not knowing who has access to the info!

First of all, props to your daughter for being aware of the issue. They can't see her info because she is a fan of their page, but if they wanted to, they'd find a different way.

But to clear it up, fan page administrators can't look at the profile info of their fans. I administer a couple different pages for clients, and the only minifeed/profiles I can see are my friends. There just happens to be an extra sidebar on my account where I can update and edit the pages.

Applications you add, on the other hand...