Obama/McCain and space exploration

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Who said I was talking about intelligent life, and who's saying that life on Earth is intelligent? To us, yes, but maybe to something else, somewhere else, no.

PhiGam, yes it does matter what kind of elements there are on other planets. Carbon is probably the most important element there is, but I won't get into that or why I think it is. What about water? When it comes to fostering life, water has the highly useful property of staying liquid across what most biologists regard as a fairly wide range of temperatures. The trouble is, most biologist look to Earth, where water stays liquid across 100 degrees of celcius scale. Another planet doesn't necesarily have to resemble Earth to support life. Like on some parts of Mars, atmospheric pressure is so low that water is never liquid. A cup of H2O boils and freezes at the same time. Yet in spite of Mars' current state, it's atmosphere once supported liquid water. If Mars ever harbored life on its surface, it would have been then. Where there once was life, there are fossils. And who said anything about intelligent life? Like I was saying earlier, extremophiles are everywhere. As far as I know, extremophiles were the earliest life forms here. And to declare that Earth must be the only planet with life in the universe is pretty big headed. I say this, because planets cannot be all that rare in the universe if the Sun, an ordinary star, has at least 8 of them. So there is a lot to look for.

You're saying the same stuff over and over again.
Tell me why its worth our resources to send manned missions to mars/ other planets. Prove to me that the billions of dollars that NASA receives in funding every year wouldn't be better suited for medical research or alternative energy research. Only then can I not feel that NASA is anything more than an example of government waste.

[LightBulb]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I know Mars can be an ice ball at times,

This just deserved quoting.

Here's a map of Mars, courtesy of Google Maps.

[KSig RC]

Congratulations! This is seriously the dumbest possible thread regardless of topic. Sweet, guys! Great work!

NOT SNARK: CG, seriously, you're just quoting Wikipedia at this point. Think about that.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

You're saying the same stuff over and over again.
Tell me why its worth our resources to send manned missions to mars/ other planets. Prove to me that the billions of dollars that NASA receives in funding every year wouldn't be better suited for medical research or alternative energy research. Only then can I not feel that NASA is anything more than an example of government waste.

I've already told you why. Medical research is good, I don't disagree with that. But I don't think NASA spending is government waste.

Originally Posted by LightBulb

This just deserved quoting.

Here's a map of Mars, courtesy of Google Maps.

-130 is cold

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Congratulations! This is seriously the dumbest possible thread regardless of topic. Sweet, guys! Great work!

NOT SNARK: CG, seriously, you're just quoting Wikipedia at this point. Think about that.

Ksig, I don't even know what Wikipedia is. I'm not familiar with the blog and other computer terminology you guys use on here. And I don't think it's a dumb thread at all. If you think it's that dumb, then why even post on here?

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I don't even know what Wikipedia is.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

I know what it is now. I looked it up.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

OMG. My dad seriously LOVES Parliament, so this made me LOL. Really.

Parliament is off the hook.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEVTbVI08pM

[PrettyBoy]

As far as going to other planets is concerned, if we found aliens on another planet, I would feel sorry for them. I wouldn't be surprised if these "pilgrims" (before they took the whole planet like they take everything else) from Earth put those jokers on reservations on their own damn planet.

[LightBulb]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Congratulations! This is seriously the dumbest possible thread regardless of topic. Sweet, guys! Great work!

Right after my map of Mars? I'm honored.

Originally Posted by KSig RC

NOT SNARK:

Awesome.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

-130 is cold

Agreed. Ice ball baby, too cold, too cold.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

As far as going to other planets is concerned, if we found aliens on another planet, I would feel sorry for them. I wouldn't be surprised if these "pilgrims" (before they took the whole planet like they take everything else) from Earth put those jokers on reservations on their own damn planet.

I can't wait to hear this...hehe

"...why don't you go back to the planet you came from?"

"Well if you people didn't come with your spaceships and stole us from our galaxy, we wouldn't HAVE this problem! Go back to YOUR planet!"

Originally Posted by PhiGam

You're saying the same stuff over and over again.
Tell me why its worth our resources to send manned missions to mars/ other planets. Prove to me that the billions of dollars that NASA receives in funding every year wouldn't be better suited for medical research or alternative energy research. Only then can I not feel that NASA is anything more than an example of government waste.

because it's there.

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Daemon, I agree partly, but if we cut NASA spending, I don't think we would know in even 100 years. I think we have the technology now, just with more spending and research we can make it a reality sooner than we think. I know all the stuff I posted earlier may very well be wrong, but no one on GC really knows. I mean, we could be on the brink of an amazing discovery. There are planets like our own all around us. Think about it. If you had a telescope like the one I have, and if you went to some of the places I go to look at the stars you would see what I'm talking about. I go where there are no city lights and it's beautiful. You can see everything. You can actually see a few thousand of the billions of stars in our galaxy alone.

20 bucks if the Cold War was still going on as we speak, I'll bet we would either have been on Mars or on our way there within the next few years.

ETA: lol @ the "tearing shyt up" comment. lol

You know...if anyone ever paid attention and saw 2010, Man was trying to get to JUPITER and was only slowed down by Cold War activities on Earth....maybe it's time we picked a fight without fighting again....heh!

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I know what it is now. I looked it up.

But, you didn't know before. You have to be a troll or someone living in a hut.

[lillady85]

I'm having a real hard time believing that anyone under the age of 30 does not know what Wikipedia is. My grandma is 76 and even she knows.
Have you never googled anything? Usually, wiki is one of the first five links!

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by lillady85

I'm having a real hard time believing that anyone under the age of 30 does not know what Wikipedia is. My grandma is 76 and even she knows.
Have you never googled anything? Usually, wiki is one of the first five links!

I'm old and I know what Wikipedia is.

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

As far as going to other planets is concerned, if we found aliens on another planet, I would feel sorry for them. I wouldn't be surprised if these "pilgrims" (before they took the whole planet like they take everything else) from Earth put those jokers on reservations on their own damn planet.

I don't even know where to start

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

I've already told you why. Medical research is good, I don't disagree with that. But I don't think NASA spending is government waste.

But WHYYYYYYYY do you think that? You have made a couple blanket statements with nothing to back it up... thats not the same.