LOST - Season 5

[Thetagirl218]

I don't what exactly to say about tonight's episode...... intriguing yet predictable? My thoughts are below in white.....

First off.....I called it Charlotte is dead! Though I was shocked by the " I grew up on the island" comment. What the fudge about Faraday being an old man.....? We know he can't be effected from all the shifts thanks to Desmond being his constant....

I thought Locke having to push the wheel that was left off kilter by Ben was kinda funny....

Another thing about Ben.....why did he lie to Locke? Why not say, no Locke you have to move the island not me....?

Totally confused about Jack's dad being Jacob...He had said before he was just a messenger...

Another thing, If you are in charge of the island....how can you leave it to go have a family and a couple kids...

The Monster retreating into the temple with weird symbols was odd.... as how it changed everyone....Though we knew Danielle was going to kill her husband...

I think the Monster is going to have something to do with that project the Dharma guy mentioned in the season opener about "dealing with the natives"

Eloise Hawkins must equal Ellie back in the 50s flashback...What episode was she with Desmond? I must have missed that one.

One thing that is bothering me with her.....If she has a "island location device" in her basement....why did Widmore need Faraday to find the island? He already knew Ellie....

Any thoughts on this confusion?

[Senusret I]

I think C meant that DF was an "old man" to her, as a child. In fact, I didn't remember her saying old man, but scary man. Not that she didn't say it, "old" just wasn't the word I picked up on.

I think B lied to L because B can't handle that he was never "supposed" to be the leader, if that makes sense. I think he's a very flawed, very sad man who is causing more problems because of his own selfishness.

[tangelo212]

Ok, I like this posting in white thing. I have a few thoughts myself.

First of all, the time shifts=the worst migraine ever. If you've never had a migraine, watch LOST and you will know.

I understood Charlotte's comment about Daniel the same way Senusret did, I didn't really notice her say "old," but assumed it was b/c she was a little kid and he was whatever age, just older than she. Plus, we already knew he was there b/c we saw him in the Orchid station when DHARMA was building it.
I'm trying to remember if perhaps we saw Charlotte in the schoolroom as one of the DHARMA little kids..... Also, who was Ben's childhood friend? Remember that one little nice girl? I don't think it was Charlotte because if I remember correctly that little girl died (this is WAY back, my memory may be fuzzy here)??? But anyway, it would be interesting if they had shown Charlotte as a little DHARMA kid in the 70s... maybe I'll do some research and go back to that episode.

Ok, if Jack's dad (who I still take as a messenger, then didn't say he was Jacob or anything in this episode) has such issues with Ben and Locke not following his instructions about moving the island literally to the T (that Locke had to do it and not Ben), then there should be an issue this time. He told Locke to "give it a little push," but then Locke PULLS the wheel!!! AGGHHH THE WORLD WILL END! Actually, I don't think this has to do with anything, I just get excited when I think I outsmart the show's writers

I wrote a lot about the engagement ring episode where Hawking and Desmond meet a few pages back on here... the episode name escapes me at the moment.

This might already have been addressed in the show and I'm just forgetting, but why did Alex (D Rousseau's daughter) think Ben was her dad? I seem to remember that he kidnapped her??? I don't remember why she was with him and why she believed he was her father.

If Ben is flawed... then why does E Hawking trust him... Honestly, I agree that his illusions of grandeur are just that-- illusions and that he is a mere pawn in the grander scheme of things. Either Hawking trusts him or she is just using him.

Also, do you think that if Locke had made it back to the real world alive, he would have told Sun what Jin wanted him to tell her, that he is dead? Or do you think he would have told her the truth to supposedly "save" the island, essentially sacrificing Jin's wishes? I'm giving Ben the "Ben"efit (badump ching) of the doubt here and guessing he just took the ring off Locke after he was dead and didn't know Jin's true wishes, though it is questionable if he would have honored them or not.

[PhiMuTillIDie]

Here are my thoughts:

The Temple didn't have the weird symbols when the men went in it after the Monster. They were there when Jin was next to it after the flash, though. They might be a warning that Rousseau and her team put there?

I'm pretty sure Ben had The Others kidnap Alex when she was born. Danielle gave birth alone (as far as we know right now), so she might have passed out from exhaustion and that's when they took her. Remember how curious they were about Claire? It's impossible for women to give birth on the Island without dying. Danielle being able to do it means that there might be something special about Alex and Ben, the selfish little rat that he tends to be, probably wanted it.

A friend of mine is convinced this idea is too simple, but I'm thinking maybe Ben had Locke killed or killed Locke himself so that Locke couldn't dissuade Sun from returning to the Island, then took the ring off of him to give to Sun as proof that he was still alive.

[ASTalumna06]

I don't really have much to say about this episode, as I don't think it left me wondering as much as most other episodes have.

Only one question... when Charlotte said she thinks she remembers Daniel from when she was younger, does she remember him as he looks now? I can't remember if she said "older" man, but I know she said "crazy". This is the one thing I'm confused about.

(And not to sound mean or anything, but can we all stop writing in white? If someone hasn't yet seen the episode and they click into this thread looking for the latest posts, they really wouldn't have any right to get mad if and when people ruin it for them).

[LucyKKG]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

(And not to sound mean or anything, but can we all stop writing in white? If someone hasn't yet seen the episode and they click into this thread looking for the latest posts, they really wouldn't have any right to get mad if and when people ruin it for them).

Ditto! Thank you! That's why I haven't read the Bachelor thread the whole season!

I don't even know what to think. I'm so confused.

[SWTXBelle]

PhiMu - only women who BECOME pregnant on the island die - hence Sun's "who is the baby daddy" question's importance.

And WHO is Jacob's son? I didn't pick up that it was Jack - what am I missing?

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

And WHO is Jacob's son? I didn't pick up that it was Jack - what am I missing?

When Locke saw Christian in the well, Christian said something like, "When you came to see me at my cabin..." This suggests that Christian is Jacob, since all previous references to the cabin have led us to believe the cabin is Jacob's.

So, if Christian is Jacob, then Jack would be his (Jacob's) son. (Likewise, Claire would be Jacob's daughter.)

[PhiMuTillIDie]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

When Locke saw Christian in the well, Christian said something like, "When you came to see me at my cabin..." This suggests that Christian is Jacob, since all previous references to the cabin have led us to believe the cabin is Jacob's.

So, if Christian is Jacob, then Jack would be his (Jacob's) son. (Likewise, Claire would be Jacob's daughter.)

I just went back and re-watched the scene. Christian said something about talking to Locke at THE cabin, not necessarily HIS cabin. I'm not convinced he's Jacob. I do, however, think Jacob might have the power to animate dead bodies to act as his messengers, which is why Christian, who died before he ever reached the Island, is suddenly up and walking around. Maybe that's why Richard never ages, he isn't actually alive...?

As for the whole pregnant woman thing, Juliet said that Claire was starting to show signs of the same thing that killed the other pregnant women despite having conceived off the Island, which is why I figured they'd find Rousseau's pregnancy interesting even if she didn't conceive on the Island.

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

When Locke saw Christian in the well, Christian said something like, "When you came to see me at my cabin..." This suggests that Christian is Jacob, since all previous references to the cabin have led us to believe the cabin is Jacob's.

So, if Christian is Jacob, then Jack would be his (Jacob's) son. (Likewise, Claire would be Jacob's daughter.)

Thanks - makes sense.

[Senusret I]

You gotta hush til the people on the West Coast have seen it!

[IlovemyAKA]

oops. fixed it

[SWTXBelle]

Or people on the West Coast need to stay away until after they've seen it!

I wish they would use the pop-ups all the time - it helps.

[ASTalumna06]

I love how the very end of almost every episode of this show has me saying "What?!" at my tv, with my mouth hanging open, looking amazed, and leaves me frozen for about 10 seconds.

The writers of Lost amaze me. every. time.

[twinkle555]

tonights episode was SO GOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!