Protest at Columbia over Iranian President

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

I would guess that MysticCat will take this same deal.

Please deal me in.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

she he it them....what difference does it make.

Saturday nights are lonely for you, huh?

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Let me translate this one for you....

**AHEM**

"Drole....help....Seid and Kevin are at it again and you know that Kevin's snarky attitude skills suck so please come in and provide needed backup and be really super creative because you know that we can't and maybe that will make that awful Daemonseid person leave him alone, meanwhile I will sit back and play cheerleader for you guys. We will pay you in Scooby snacks!"

Is that close?

Not even in the same hemisphere.

You're making the fundamental mistake of thinking I'm still taking you seriously, or that Kevin or anybody else needs back-up to be protected from your rapier wit or your superior intellect. KSig is right -- you've had lots of good stuff to say many times, but in this and a few other threads lately, what you seem to think are stunning retorts are at best playground comebacks that everybody except Pee Wee Herman left behind in 6th grade and are at worst incomprehensible.

Maybe you've got some insight to offer here, but if so, you're burying it under all the garbage.

[Sugar08]

Originally Posted by AlexMack

Protesting is a waste of time and nothing has ever been accomplished by it. Now cut your hair and go get a job ya good for nothing layabout hippy!

LOL! I tend to think protesting had it's day, but it's not as significant anymore.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Please deal me in.

Saturday nights are lonely for you, huh?

Not even in the same hemisphere.

You're making the fundamental mistake of thinking I'm still taking you seriously, or that Kevin or anybody else needs back-up to be protected from your rapier wit or your superior intellect. KSig is right -- you've had lots of good stuff to say many times, but in this and a few other threads lately, what you seem to think are stunning retorts are at best playground comebacks that everybody except Pee Wee Herman left behind in 6th grade and are at worst incomprehensible.

Maybe you've got some insight to offer here, but if so, you're burying it under all the garbage.

well take the garbage and yourself out please.... 'preciate it peanutshelll

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

well take the garbage and yourself out please.... 'preciate it peanutshelll

NOT SO WITTY RETORT

/I've considered it a standing invitation at this point.
//He called your posts the garbage... so did you just ask him to remove you?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Sugar08

Good observation. From what I hear, he's somewhat egotistical (go figure ) ... so it makes sense.

I really enjoyed the opportunity to hear him in his own words (sorta). Far too often we get a watered-down version of what's being said, or simply get told that the man is a maniac or "evil." I think he was pretty interesting. (Also, pretty bold to come to the U.S. where he's been completely demonized.)

I think you're right. I think as far as he's concerned, it is all about him, including coming to the US. He can show all the true believers back home how he came into the heart of the Great Satan and stood his ground.

I swear, when I was listening to him, I was reminded of a much scarier version of somebody like Rush Limbaugh. Not that I think Limbaugh is a crazy anti-American or supports terrorism or anything like that -- I want to be clear on that -- but there was that sense of "I'm right, nobody can convince me otherwise, and anyone who doesn't agree with me is evil, stupid or deluded." The true believers eat that stuff up.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Sig no offense...but...

Guess what...

I don't need to prove shyt to you.

Of course you don't, man - that was the whole point of my post!

Stop with the ridiculous personal attacks, because there's no way to back them up, and they detract from your point. If it's the greatest "zinger" in the world, it still doesn't invalidate another's point on its own - you have to prove your side.

You can't do that through insults, or taunting, or name-calling, or simply saying others don't understand. At some point, everyone else not understanding should indicate a problem with either the message or the messenger - it's Occam's Razor, and it should be a rule we all live by.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

Of course you don't, man - that was the whole point of my post!

Stop with the ridiculous personal attacks, because there's no way to back them up, and they detract from your point. If it's the greatest "zinger" in the world, it still doesn't invalidate another's point on its own - you have to prove your side.

You can't do that through insults, or taunting, or name-calling, or simply saying others don't understand. At some point, everyone else not understanding should indicate a problem with either the message or the messenger - it's Occam's Razor, and it should be a rule we all live by.

I tell you what...you start...and If I like where you are going...I will go with you

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I think you're right. I think as far as he's concerned, it is all about him, including coming to the US. He can show all the true believers back home how he came into the heart of the Great Satan and stood his ground.

I swear, when I was listening to him, I was reminded of a much scarier version of somebody like Rush Limbaugh. Not that I think Limbaugh is a crazy anti-American or supports terrorism or anything like that -- I want to be clear on that -- but there was that sense of "I'm right, nobody can convince me otherwise, and anyone who doesn't agree with me is evil, stupid or deluded." The true believers eat that stuff up.

I saw an article that put it like this: instead of us talking about freedom of speech in Iran, we're debating freedom of speech in America... and that's what he wanted.

His responses on the Holocaust (that if it's real then why can't it stand up to alternate research) and homosexuals (we don't have them in Iran) were just pathetic, but you know they won't come off that way to those who hear it in Iran (edited to leave out the intro I'm sure)

[Kevin]

^ Yeah, that's why I think Columbia made the correct decision to have this guy over. Allowing students to ask him questions regarding homosexuality in Iran, the holocaust, etc., helps us to see that he's not the sympathetic figure some would want him to be. It would be hard to conclude based on those few minutes of dialog that Mahmud (not even going to attempt his last name) is anything more than your garden variety religious zealot.

He is essentially the Muslim version of what we would have today if this country had elected Pat Robertson as Commander in Chief.

[Rudey]

He didn't answer any of the questions.

And he and his country are involved in the daily murder of Americans as well as many others. Beyond denying the Holocaust, he's advocated mass genocide and is now about to be the proud owner of a nuclear bomb.

The only person that's any scarier in this world is N. Korea's Kim Jong Il.

-Rudey
--Enough talk about lawyers and their salaries, I have you all beat

[Sugar08]

Originally Posted by Rudey

He didn't answer any of the questions.

And he and his country are involved in the daily murder of Americans as well as many others. Beyond denying the Holocaust, he's advocated mass genocide and is now about to be the proud owner of a nuclear bomb.

When did he advocate mass genocide? Excuse my ignorance.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Sugar08

When did he advocate mass genocide? Excuse my ignorance.

He wants to wipe Israel off the map. I think in this speech he limited it to "Politically wiping them off the map" By elections. No one needs to die.


Right. That'll happen.

[Rudey]

Originally Posted by Sugar08

When did he advocate mass genocide? Excuse my ignorance.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6181029.stm
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID={3C5833AB-CD3F-462F-874C-580756020566}

I mean, listen, basically it's really hard to get people in Europe to agree with Bush on anything. Somehow they are all freaked out by him and Iran.

And in regards to gays, if anyone wants to know, there are gays in Iran but they have wives/families. It's what you do in Muslim countries I guess. But being completely gay is asking for death, although they're willing to pay for you to get your gender changed.

-Rudey

[DSTCHAOS]

He shouldn't have been invited to speak. Free speech on AMERICAN soil doesn't apply to terrorists and known supporters of terrorism. This goes to how I feel about any noncitizen who comes here, when you're HERE you will be treated as a human being but not necessarily given the same citizenship rights as citizens receive or given a platform to speak. Just like how Americans are often treated when we go to OTHER countries, especially Americans who are accused of tormenting or encouraging the torment of the citizens of other countries.

The president of Columbia is a cowardly moron. He waits until he's introducing the speaker to make negative remarks that will appease his critics.

Iran doesn't have gay people, everyone. Announcement.

Why did it seem like almost every news analyst on Fox News an alum of Columbia University?

[Sugar08]

Originally Posted by Rudey

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6181029.stm
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID={3C5833AB-CD3F-462F-874C-580756020566}

I mean, listen, basically it's really hard to get people in Europe to agree with Bush on anything. Somehow they are all freaked out by him and Iran.

And in regards to gays, if anyone wants to know, there are gays in Iran but they have wives/families. It's what you do in Muslim countries I guess. But being completely gay is asking for death, although they're willing to pay for you to get your gender changed.

-Rudey

Thanks for the link.