Opening Weekend Dove Season

macallan25 · #1 09-04-2006, 09:27 PM

Anyone hunt over Labor Day weekend? Damn good hunt in North West Texas. Our group shot over 500 opening day.

33girl · #2 09-05-2006, 10:15 AM

poor little feathery cooing guys.

Seriously, I didn't know there was such a thing as "dove season." Is there an overpopulation problem with them down there?

DSTRen13 · #3 09-05-2006, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

poor little feathery cooing guys.

Seriously, I didn't know there was such a thing as "dove season." Is there an overpopulation problem with them down there?

There's deer season, turkey season, etc. - why wouldn't there be dove season?

I know people are probably going to jump on me for this, but I've never understood this (coming from the environment I grew up in) so I have to ask: why is it that some people get SO upset over hunting, but they have no problem at all eating meat that they buy in a store or restaurant? I mean, you do realize that those animals that you're eating were killed in a much nastier, less hygienic, and crueler way, right? In the grand scheme of things, what is the big deal about hunting?

/ends rant and goes back to eating the bird that her uncle killed

33girl · #4 09-05-2006, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTRen13

There's deer season, turkey season, etc. - why wouldn't there be dove season?

Because I didn't think there were enough of them to warrant a season. Plus, they're not very big. To me it sounds like "robin season" or "bluebird season."

RU OX Alum · #5 09-05-2006, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

Because I didn't think there were enough of them to warrant a season. Plus, they're not very big. To me it sounds like "robin season" or "bluebird season."

Blackbird pie is tasty, according to nursey rhyme book.

I don't think dove season is in yet up here, but I can't go dove hunting. It starts way too early. And deer hunting is worse. You wake up at dark thirty to go freeze your ass off in the woods. Vinencen is good. So I guess it works out. I don't want to wake up though.

ISUKappa · #6 09-05-2006, 11:02 AM

IIRC, the doves that are hunted aren't the pretty white lovebirds most people think of when they hear the word dove, they're more like pigeons.

DSTRen13 · #7 09-05-2006, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

Because I didn't think there were enough of them to warrant a season. Plus, they're not very big. To me it sounds like "robin season" or "bluebird season."

Oh, okay, I'm sorry - I completely misunderstood what you were trying to say (one of the many hazards of Internet communication). Doves are a pretty diverse category of birds - there are quail doves and pheasant doves and just ordinary city pigeon kinds, etc. They're a really common bird in general, as well as being a common game bird.

Edited to add a word I left out by mistake, lol.

Drolefille · #8 09-05-2006, 11:11 AM

I have no problem with hunting, as long as it's not just for trophy purposes. (Mount your 30 point buck, but eat it too)

But as a Sigma Kappa I have to protest the shooting of doves.

Just on principle.

TonyB06 · #9 09-05-2006, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DSTRen13

There's deer season, turkey season, etc. - why wouldn't there be dove season?

I know people are probably going to jump on me for this, but I've never understood this (coming from the environment I grew up in) so I have to ask: why is it that some people get SO upset over hunting, but they have no problem at all eating meat that they buy in a store or restaurant? I mean, you do realize that those animals that you're eating were killed in a much nastier, less hygienic, and crueler way, right? In the grand scheme of things, what is the big deal about hunting?

/ends rant and goes back to eating the bird that her uncle killed

I'm missing your point. Are you saying there should be a "standard of demise" for the meat we consume? Is it somehow better if it's hunted meat?

As for the hunting, give the animals a gun, make it fair......now you might have something for ESPN.

AchtungBaby80 · #10 09-05-2006, 12:14 PM

My friend just went dove hunting. He laughed at me when I asked him did he "catch" anything...catch, shoot, whatever.

DSTRen13 · #11 09-05-2006, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyB06

I'm missing your point. Are you saying there should be a "standard of demise" for the meat we consume? Is it somehow better if it's hunted meat?

As for the hunting, give the animals a gun, make it fair......now you might have something for ESPN.

Well, everybody's free to eat whatever they want to, of course. Personally, I don't eat most meat available on the market. It's just my own personal preference, because of the conditions that those animals are raised and kept in and the way they are killed. To me, it's nasty. I guess it's "standard of demise" (I like the way you phrased that, lol) and the standards of living of the animals before their demise. I would much rather eat something that has lived a nice, happy, free life and then been killed cleanly, and that I know exactly how it's been killed and prepared for consumption. I am really particular about meat, for health issues and for ethical issues, and I would much rather eat hunted meat than standard meat from the store.

Regarding giving the animals guns to make it fair, what weapons would you give the animals that are on meat farms?

I know I'm kind of weird about this, I'm just really picky about my food ...

macallan25 · #12 09-05-2006, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyB06

I'm missing your point. Are you saying there should be a "standard of demise" for the meat we consume? Is it somehow better if it's hunted meat?

As for the hunting, give the animals a gun, make it fair......now you might have something for ESPN.

You obviously have little to no knowledge of how hunting wild game helps animals and animal populations far more than it hurts them. (actually it really doesn't hurt them at all.)

For an example, i'll use deer. Go talk to any wildlife biologist and he will tell you that you absolutely have to control populations of male and female deer...especially on ranches and hunting leases where the numbers are higher on smaller pieces of property (anywhere from 2000 - 60000 acres.) If you don't kill them over breeding occurs and you start to get severe inbreeding which leads to diseases and pretty gnarly deformaties. Most often on larger ranches (such as the one I have) you will have an extra "Game Management" period after the end of the regular season to just kill Doe (females). Usu\ually are target number is around 35 - 50 deer per year.

DSTRen13 · #13 09-05-2006, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

You obviously have little to no knowledge of how hunting wild game helps animals and animal populations far more than it hurts them. (actually it really doesn't hurt them at all.)

For an example, i'll use deer. Go talk to any wildlife biologist and he will tell you that you absolutely have to control populations of male and female deer...especially on ranches and hunting leases where the numbers are higher on smaller pieces of property (anywhere from 2000 - 60000 acres.) If you don't kill them over breeding occurs and you start to get severe inbreeding which leads to diseases and pretty gnarly deformaties. Most often on larger ranches (such as the one I have) you will have an extra "Game Management" period after the end of the regular season to just kill Doe (females). Usu\ually are target number is around 35 - 50 deer per year.

I thought we had a lot of deer around where I live in Georgia (a semi-rural area), until I went with a friend to visit her family in New Jersey. DANG. The deer are EVERYWHERE. All over the roads, in everyone's backyards, it's crazy. I was confused, because I figured there would be less deer there, considered it was a much more suburban area. Apparently, however, hunting is illegal in the whole state, so the deer population is out of control. The deer from all the surrounding states can even find refuge there, I guess. I mean, yes, deer are cute, I've seen "Bambi", too, but they also eat all your plants in your yard and are very much not good at all when you're driving at night (or, in this area of NJ, even if you're driving during the day since the things are so rampant - sheesh).

valkyrie · #14 09-05-2006, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTRen13

I know people are probably going to jump on me for this, but I've never understood this (coming from the environment I grew up in) so I have to ask: why is it that some people get SO upset over hunting, but they have no problem at all eating meat that they buy in a store or restaurant? I mean, you do realize that those animals that you're eating were killed in a much nastier, less hygienic, and crueler way, right? In the grand scheme of things, what is the big deal about hunting?

I'm bothered by hunting -- but then, I don't eat meat.

Also, there's a good solution for deer overpopulation -- it's called wolves.

DSTRen13 · #15 09-05-2006, 07:08 PM

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I'm bothered by hunting -- but then, I don't eat meat.

Also, there's a good solution for deer overpopulation -- it's called wolves.

If you don't eat meat and you don't like hunting, that makes sense. I've just never understood people who are just so shocked by the horrible, evil hunters, then go chow down on a double cheeseburger or some such thing. I don't eat most meat because I am not going to pay a corporation to do something to the animals that I wouldn't do to them myself (especially when eating the results is pretty much gross and unhealthy, IMO). If I do buy meat, it is certified free-range, organic, all-natural fed - the way I would treat the animals if I were raising them for food. I only eat animals that I would be able to kill myself (birds and seafood) - I could never look at a pig or cow and kill it.

Re: the wolves, I think I'd rather have hunters around my area than lots of wolves, lol

Wolves eat people's pets ...