State of the Union Address - Page 5

Rudey · #61 02-03-2006, 07:22 PM

Why isn't there any backlash against the person who brought her there?

And it may not be illegal, but it's probably against the rules of many colleges to walk across the stage during graduation with a tshirt that has a racist slogan on it, so they might just stop you from doing it.

-Rudey

saetex · #62 02-03-2006, 07:29 PM

I don't think the woman that invited her there thought that she would do anything that she did. Again, the rules of the House specify the conduct that everyone in attendance is supposed to follow. The Constitution was not violated and there were no laws broken. They have removed people in the past for advocating current events as well, it is not all about negativity.

KSigkid · #63 02-04-2006, 01:15 AM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
I think you know that I would ask the same question if it had been a different President.

I'm not so sure about that - but if you say so...

Optimist Prime - I really have no idea where you come out with half the stuff that you say on here.

DeltAlum · #64 02-04-2006, 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by KSigkid
I'm not so sure about that - but if you say so...

Oh, take a look back. I admit I don't think much of "W" but I don't think much of Kerry either. I just have trouble trusting President Bush. And since he's constantly in the news, I get to comment about him a lot.

That may be why you have that perception.

When someone does something I don't agree with, I pretty much take it to task.

I've mentioned it before, but I've voted for about an equal number of GOP and Democrat candidates since I've been voting. Most of them lost, which I say with a sense of pride.

BTW, I'm not registered to either party.

Phasad1913 · #65 02-04-2006, 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
Oh, take a look back. I admit I don't think much of "W" but I don't think much of Kerry either. I just have trouble trusting President Bush. And since he's constantly in the news, I get to comment about him a lot.

That may be why you have that perception.

When someone does something I don't agree with, I pretty much take it to task.

I've mentioned it before, but I've voted for about an equal number of GOP and Democrat candidates since I've been voting. Most of them lost, which I say with a sense of pride.

BTW, I'm not registered to either party.

You know, you really shoud not have to defend your voting habits or opinions. You've made your point, you're entitled to do that, and that's the end of it.

alum · #66 02-04-2006, 08:31 PM

Don't forget the Republican Congressman's Wife was also kicked out for her tshirt as well. It is just not appropriate to make ANY political statement via your shirt during a joint session of Congress. That Wife should have known better and Sheehan is stupid beyond belief. Her poor son must be rolling over in his grave.

DeltAlum · #67 02-04-2006, 08:41 PM

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Originally posted by Phasad1913
You know, you really shoud not have to defend your voting habits or opinions. You've made your point, you're entitled to do that, and that's the end of it.

"...I'm not so sure about that - but if you say so..."

I don't mind responding if something I say is questioned. In this case I'd just as soon not be branded as a radical for one side or the other.

"Her poor son must be rolling over in his grave."

That's going a little too far. You have no way of knowing how the deceased felt about the war or his service in it.

He might have been just as strongly opposed as his mother, but did his duty as a soldier.

Just because he was in the Armed Forces doesn't mean he supported this conflict.

saetex · #68 02-04-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
"...I'm not so sure about that - but if you say so..."

I don't mind responding if something I say is questioned. In this case I'd just as soon not be branded as a radical for one side or the other.

"Her poor son must be rolling over in his grave."

That's going a little too far. You have no way of knowing how the deceased felt about the war or his service in it.

He might have been just as strongly opposed as his mother, but did his duty as a soldier.

Just because he was in the Armed Forces doesn't mean he supported this conflict.

The fact that her so re-enlisted to go back to the war speaks volumes about his character and his support for the cause at hand. That is a personal choice, noone forced him to do that.

DeltAlum · #69 02-04-2006, 09:46 PM

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Originally posted by saetex
The fact that her so re-enlisted to go back to the war speaks volumes about his character and his support for the cause at hand. That is a personal choice, noone forced him to do that.

That's true.

Everything I read about Casey indicates that he joined the Army to be a Chaplain's Assistant and non-combatant. That being the case, the fact that he volunteered for the rescue mission during which he was killed does speak volumes about his character.

There is really no way to clear the static between his mother's rhetoric and that of the government. Both are extreme.

It's not terribly uncommon, however, for a soldier to follow what he/she feels is a sense of duty, whether the cause warrants it or not. I'd like to believe that he died for something he really did believe in.

saetex · #70 02-04-2006, 10:25 PM

i agree totally

Rudey · #71 02-05-2006, 12:07 AM

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Originally posted by KSigkid
I'm not so sure about that - but if you say so...

I agree with KSigkid.

Sorry DeltAlum, but I consider myself a moderate and I doubt many would accept that and it's OK.

-Rudey
--Off to drink some apolitical beers

DeltAlum · #72 02-05-2006, 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
I agree with KSigkid.

Sorry DeltAlum, but I consider myself a moderate...

I have no comment.

KSigkid · #73 02-05-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum

I don't mind responding if something I say is questioned. In this case I'd just as soon not be branded as a radical for one side or the other.

Nowhere did I "brand" you a radical, nothing remotely like it. You dislike Bush - that's fine, I voted for him and there are quite a few times when I haven't liked what he's done.

You say you're a moderate outside of the board, and I can definitely believe that; however, your comments on the board seem to be bent more to the left. I'm sorry, but looking back, I can't see much in your posts that would paint you as a moderate, besides you saying that you are. At times, you tend to lump all conservatives together, as if we're all thinking the exact same way.

Also, there are posts like in this thread, where you take a dig at conservatives:
Laugh if you care to, oh foolish ones, but does this give you an inkling of how "Conservatives" are viewed by we simple mortals?

You have a right to your opinion just as everyone else on this board does; I'm not questionining that right, or your right to think whatever you want about the President, the Republican party, etc.

I have no problem with people coming in on either side - I just think your posting history tends to come down heavily on one side...

DeltAlum · #74 02-06-2006, 10:57 AM

How about a little context on that quote? It was done in humor.

Here's your quote from the post just before it.

"I'm sorry to say these people are correct - all of us are horrible, vile people.

Now I'm going downtown to beat up some liberals. Anyone want to come with me?

A couple of posts later, I took a little shot at myself. Read on.

Here's another secret. While I'm not a journalist, I worked for many years in newsrooms, and I tend to react adversely to generalizations (like Hoosier and some others) whether they are pro-conservative or pro-liberal.

Besides, Bush is in the news more than anyone else, and as I've pointed out, I don't trust him, so it's just more likely to find (my) negative quotes about him.

As for the Republican Party, I grew up in a Fundamentalist Christian Republican family -- I've never been a part of the Democratic Party. My politics are centered on people -- although I admit that the GOP has leaned a little too far to the right for me recently. And, I'm certainly not fundamentalist -- I worry about that groups widening influence on government.

By the way, I didn't say you branded me -- it was a generic comment. Actually, I was responding to a comment by Phasad.

KSigkid · #75 02-06-2006, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
How about a little context on that quote? It was done in humor.

Here's your quote from the post just before it.

"I'm sorry to say these people are correct - all of us are horrible, vile people.

Now I'm going downtown to beat up some liberals. Anyone want to come with me?

Here's another secret. While I'm not a journalist, I worked for many years in newsrooms, and I tend to react adversely to generalizations (like Hoosier and some others) whether they are pro-conservative or pro-liberal.

Besides, Bush is in the news more than anyone else, and as I've pointed out, I don't trust him, so it's just more likely to find (my) negative quotes about him.

Check your PMs...this topic could be a thread in and of itself.