Ladies only - guys beware! - Page 5

MoonStar17 · #61 07-27-2005, 01:33 PM

Thanks to everyone who PMed me. I have been doing my research and am looking into a second opinion just to make sure I was told everything...and to possibly get some questions answered.

I have also written a complaint letter to the Director of the Health Services complex about my experience. And from talking to some other girls I know, apparently I am not the only one a few of their friends and some of them have also had negative experiences with this "doctor"

thanks for all the great advice

DZTUBAGIRL · #62 07-27-2005, 02:59 PM

MoonStar17, I read that you had to have a Colposcopy. Well I got a phone call from my doctor yesterday saying that I too had an abnormal pap. They want to do a Colposcopy. What in the heck is it? I am scared out of my mind! I know you didn't have the greatest experience but how bad was it? Any encouraging words would really help me not go insane. Thanks a lot!

MoonStar17 · #63 07-27-2005, 03:09 PM

DZTUBAGIRL,

I just PM'ed you

AKA_Monet · #64 07-27-2005, 06:07 PM

I've seen both male and female gynecologists... Right now, I see a very good female gynecologist, although she doesn't hook me up with extra tests--no need according to her, I do argue medical facts about past conditions I have had since I started seeing a gynecologist as teenager...

Since I'm about to be 37 years old, I had huge concerns about my genetic predisposition to fibroids and other female related cancers. And the fact that AA women suffer from these kinds of issues moreso than other women at younger ages, I really wanted to know what my reproductive health was like since I've NEVER been pregnant and want to have children, sooner than later... My current insurance allowed me to see a nurse practioner that I got to give me an intrauterine ultrasound. I had to lie about feeling pain during my period, etc. but I got it done. Well, the results were extremely boring for folks to read as they called it...

ZTAngel-- I have an excellent male gynecologist in ATL who did laser surgery for me. I will have to search the world for his name, but I have it somewhere... There is also the Women's Center that made the original referral that was pretty good 15 years ago. But, they may be poor now... The Dr. was located in Cobb Co. Ironically, my godfather is an ob/gyn in Nashville and was under consideration for the Surgeon General during the Clinton Admin. But they thought he did one to many abortions and block his vote in the senate... The senate failed to consider that miscarriages are considered "spontaneous abortions" by insurances and they counted his handling of that procedure... Now he does research in gestational diabetes and speaking tours...

To those who have to undergo extra stuff like Colopscopy. That is just the visualization of the cervix, up close and personal. Does it hurt? Well, how wide can you open up? Usually a "kid's" (and you all are young ladies to me) vaginal canal are relatively small and taut--strong abs. So, they have "fittings" on the scope to detect these abnomalities on the cervix--they are trying to see how big, the color and how bad they are... They can scrape them off once visualized, the same day--that feels like the biopsy and can hurt some folks... They can add a chemical "peel" or cryofreeze them--sometimes that hurts... Or they laser them off--that's invasive and dangerous if clotting doesn't occur properly...

Best thing to do is to get tested for EVERYTHING... Make sure you do not have it... If you need the Colopscopy, you may need other things and the fact you are young, it can worsen very quickly...

The next thing you need to KNOW is "protect yourself at ALL times" and "just say NO"... It ain't about the fact that he's cute, he don't like using a condom, he'll kicked me to the curb if I don't--it's about your future reproductive health--do you want children when your 28-35, safely, without costly infertility treatments? Then, EFF the dumbisht, those little boys need to watch and wait. If they want skank, they can have skank... But you don't have to be stank with them and endanger your own health...

And if you get unbelievable diagnosis, get a second opinion--even a 3rd if you have to. Verify... Make them show you your paperwork--they have to legally do that anyway. They don't have to give it to you, but they can show you the test outcome. Many insurances are posting their lab data now to protect themselves legally... It's about papertrail... You are your OWN health advocate. Don't settle until you get an accurate diagnosis that you clearly understand... Not EVERY doctor graduated with honors and the top of his or her class and is board certified... Most don't like to put codes into the computer for accurate diagnosis and get jacked by the pay. And many have seen a gazillion patients since 6 AM for 7 days and think things are routine when they don't have alot of info to go on...

Besides, med schools aren't teaching the "let's examine and go developing and figure" process of elimination--that for the "translational clinical trial researchers to do". Med schools teach the "triage on the battlefield" method of seeing patients and the more info you give someone, the better off you are.

Why? Because insurance jacked up this process... That's why the patient MUST be their OWN advocate and NOT wait for a fair and accurate diagnosis... Watch your symptoms... Mark the dates and times of your periods, their consistency (heavy vs. light; chunky vs gooey and the color), the headache intensity, how long is the period, if you don't take birth control, what does your ovulation goo look like and when does it start; do you get sick after your periods because of lowered immune system; mood swinging and depression, whatever else that happens and BRING that list with you with dates, times, etc... You don't know how much that will help clinic folks out... Besides, that chit gets put into your permenent record so when you get jacked for some psychotic chit and decide to sue, you got that papertrail to follow... Because a TEAM of doctors (mainly from the insurance provider) will decide your diagnosis if you sue--and most of the time, you can't sue without probable cause unless your very rich...

Y'all need to realize doctors are human too and don't know everything although they do have to take some class on "being an asshole doctor 101 'cuz I passed my residency program"... Ironically, they HATE folks like me with a Ph.D. 'cuz I call them on their thought process with the genes and chromosomes... That's why the older doctors find me interesting because they have all these questions that I have to answer... The younger ones, well, some care about questions, others are like, how many patients I need to see to pay off my student loans... It's unfortunate, but that's the way it is now until something happens to advance medicine... That will happen in our lifetime, how I don't know.

christiangirl · #65 07-29-2005, 11:01 PM

Ok, ok. My doc really wasn't playing, I got a call yesterday from somebody trying to see when was good for me. And I get the feeling that my doc was somewhere close because anytime it sounded like I wasn't sure what he wanted checked, she'd put me on hold and come back with, "Well, he said..."

I'll bump this thread up on the 16th...if I don't....just know how much I loved you all...keep me in your thoughts and don't forget me...

And hey, we have bad campus doctors like that, they'll try so hard to tell you you have an STD. I came in for a headache and he really asked me, "When was the last time you had sex?" I'm thinking, what on earth does that have to do with a headache, but I just politely said, "Never, I'm a virgin." He just put down his pen, folded his hands, and shot me a look over his glasses.

TALK ABOUT OFFENDED, I yelled, "Well, I am!" and he sighed all big and said, "Well, okay then..."

tunatartare · #66 08-15-2005, 08:45 AM

Bumping this because there was an article about this in this month's Glamour. A male med student wrote a piece about how he wants to go into OB/GYN and he was discouraged by other men from doing it saying that most women wouldn't hire him. It goes on to talk about it and he says that men should be gynecologists.

My friend and I had this talk over th e weekend and she and I both agree that men should not be gynecologists. I don't care if you have a medical degree, but unless you have a vagina then you don't know how one works. Wednesday night I had to go to the ER because I had ruptured cysts on my ovaries and the doctor that was assigned to me was a man. He gave me two Tylenol (no joke) for the pain. He really thought that was going to do it for me.

MoonStar17 · #67 08-15-2005, 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by KLPDaisy
Bumping this because there was an article about this in this month's Glamour. A male med student wrote a piece about how he wants to go into OB/GYN and he was discouraged by other men from doing it saying that most women wouldn't hire him. It goes on to talk about it and he says that men should be gynecologists.

My friend and I had this talk over th e weekend and she and I both agree that men should not be gynecologists. I don't care if you have a medical degree, but unless you have a vagina then you don't know how one works. Wednesday night I had to go to the ER because I had ruptured cysts on my ovaries and the doctor that was assigned to me was a man. He gave me two Tylenol (no joke) for the pain. He really thought that was going to do it for me.

TWO TYLENOL?!!?!?!

I would have thrown the tylenol at him and then kicked him in the balls to see if tylenol would help him with THAT pain.

men just dont get it.

i hope you are recovering well from your ER visit....

#68 08-15-2005, 09:12 AM

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Originally posted by christiangirl
And hey, we have bad campus doctors like that, they'll try so hard to tell you you have an STD. I came in for a headache and he really asked me, "When was the last time you had sex?" I'm thinking, what on earth does that have to do with a headache, but I just politely said, "Never, I'm a virgin." He just put down his pen, folded his hands, and shot me a look over his glasses. TALK ABOUT OFFENDED, I yelled, "Well, I am!" and he sighed all big and said, "Well, okay then..."

It is rumored that at the "Quack Shack" (the medical center on Baylor's campus) that they have even given a guy a pregnancy test.

They think everyone is having sex and going to hell! Neither of those beliefs are true. Thankfully, when I had a sinus infection, they just gave me my Z pack and sent me on my way.

tunatartare · #69 08-15-2005, 09:22 AM

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Originally posted by MoonStar17
TWO TYLENOL?!!?!?!
I would have thrown the tylenol at him and then kicked him in the balls to see if tylenol would help him with THAT pain.

men just dont get it.

i hope you are recovering well from your ER visit....

That actually was exactly what I wanted to do with that Tylenol. Thank G-D the nurse taking care of me was a woman....
I'm feeling a lil better but still really sick. Going to my gyno after work today.

33girl · #70 08-15-2005, 09:30 AM

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Originally posted by KLPDaisy
Bumping this because there was an article about this in this month's Glamour. A male med student wrote a piece about how he wants to go into OB/GYN and he was discouraged by other men from doing it saying that most women wouldn't hire him. It goes on to talk about it and he says that men should be gynecologists.

My friend and I had this talk over th e weekend and she and I both agree that men should not be gynecologists. I don't care if you have a medical degree, but unless you have a vagina then you don't know how one works. Wednesday night I had to go to the ER because I had ruptured cysts on my ovaries and the doctor that was assigned to me was a man. He gave me two Tylenol (no joke) for the pain. He really thought that was going to do it for me.

I disagree.

That's kind of like saying anyone who hasn't given birth or been a parent shouldn't be an obstetrician.

aephi alum · #71 08-15-2005, 10:04 AM

It's all about the empathy.

As I've said earlier, I strongly prefer women doctors because I feel they have more empathy, particularly for problems that affect only women. Show me a male gynecologist who's ever had a menstrual cramp, let alone given birth.

However, not all women have this empathy, and not all men don't have it. Example (warning: TMI ahead): I used to have the cramps from hell (no longer - praise be to the pill!

) One afternoon when I was 13, my mother picked me up from school and told me she had to run some errands before we went home. I told her that I had bad cramps and really needed to take some Advil and lie down. She said, "It's normal" and refused to take me home. Twenty minutes later I was throwing up in the middle of Macy's.

Did I mention that my mother is a doctor? And that she specialized in pain management?

Yeah... I haven't forgiven her for that one.

ilovemyglo · #72 08-15-2005, 03:19 PM

Is it just me or do they always want to have in depth conversations while they are doing the exam?
Like "So, where are you working? What do you do? Oh that sounds fun! Are you dating anyone? How long?"

My gyno also sees two of my good friends and my sister in law... she is always "so how is so and so and so and so..."
Can we wait til your head is out of my crotch to talk? Please?!

tunatartare · #73 08-15-2005, 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by ilovemyglo
Is it just me or do they always want to have in depth conversations while they are doing the exam?
Like "So, where are you working? What do you do? Oh that sounds fun! Are you dating anyone? How long?"

My gyno also sees two of my good friends and my sister in law... she is always "so how is so and so and so and so..."
Can we wait til your head is out of my crotch to talk? Please?!

thank G-d this has never happened to me

MoonStar17 · #74 08-15-2005, 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by ilovemyglo
Is it just me or do they always want to have in depth conversations while they are doing the exam?
Like "So, where are you working? What do you do? Oh that sounds fun! Are you dating anyone? How long?"

My gyno also sees two of my good friends and my sister in law... she is always "so how is so and so and so and so..."
Can we wait til your head is out of my crotch to talk? Please?!

OMG i thought i was the only one who felt like this. The nurse practioner I see works in my office building, so shes always talking to me about work things and asking me how my boyfriend is..and how things are..blah blah blah..

i get so aggitated cause I feel so exposed and its not one of my "better" moments.. so how can anyone carry a conversation?!

christiangirl · #75 08-17-2005, 02:11 AM

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Originally posted by christiangirl
I'll bump this thread up on the 16th...if I don't....just know how much I loved you all...keep me in your thoughts and don't forget me...

I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO VIOLATED IN MY LIFE!!!!

Okay, that's an exaggeration, but it was really uncomfortable. Turns out he's the man who delivered me. So my mom kept saying, "Well, at least it's someone you know!" Okay, mom, the last time I saw him was how many years ago while I was upside down and balling my eyes out.

Well, the first man to check me out down there was the first man to give me an exam down there, I almost wanted to say, "It's all the same stuff, you don't need to check, really..."

His hands were really cold and when he pressed on my stomach, I couldn't help but laugh (I'm ticklish) then he jammed his fingers in and pulled the vaginal walls apart and ALL THE GIGGLES WERE SUPPRESSED. There was nay a "tee-hee" out of me, it hurt so much. After that it was over, I wasn't there for a full exam. But I didn't like it one bit.