North v. South Diatribe - Page 5

valkyrie · #61 03-23-2005, 07:30 PM

I don't know. Whenever someone likes to brag about California, I bring up the Governator. That usually makes them stop.

BobbyTheDon · #62 03-23-2005, 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by AKA_Monet

Eureka, California? Why? What's there? LA is where it's ALL at...

HELL NO. That is where all the good weed is at. If anyone touches Eureka, Humboldt, Santa Cruz, hell...the entire Northern California I will personally nuke whatever country they are from. This is not even a laughing matter. They can bomb LA for all I care. As long as they don't touch Orange County. LA is dirty, crowded and filled with a bunch of freaks. Especially in the Valley. Ewww the Valley. Oh and don't forget to drop a nuke in the IE while you are at it.

BobbyTheDon · #63 03-23-2005, 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
I don't know. Whenever someone likes to brag about California, I bring up the Governator. That usually makes them stop.

Psh. Our Governors balls may be smaller than yours but did your governor defeat the T-1000? Did yours teach a kindergarten class while catching a criminal? Did yours win Mr. Olympic?

I don't chink so!

AKA_Monet · #64 03-23-2005, 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
HELL NO. That is where all the good weed is at. If anyone touches Eureka, Humboldt, Santa Cruz, hell...the entire Northern California I will personally nuke whatever country they are from. This is not even a laughing matter. They can bomb LA for all I care. As long as they don't touch Orange County. LA is dirty, crowded and filled with a bunch of freaks. Especially in the Valley. Ewww the Valley. Oh and don't forget to drop a nuke in the IE while you are at it.

I'm sorry the Pac Northwest's weed has better fertility...

California has "transportation" issues if you catch my drift...

But I do agree with you, LA being nuked? I dunno... There is some nasty stuff that goes on there, but at the same time, there is a nice little fault line that assist with the nuking or at least an EMP...

And you need the water from the Inland Empire... What are you all gonna do when you all run outta water?

And the OC, dude, you watch too much TV... What do you have there, awesome waves at Trestles? Or San Clemente--ain't nobody live there with less than $10 million... I mean, it's beautiful and all--classic Californian beach life..

Okey, I wouldn't nuke it, because San Onofre is near by--but so is Camp Pendleton... And Newport, Huntington ain't that far either...

But Tustin... Dude, that has gotta go--as well as that stinky Narco/Ontario... And EFF Hemit--except for the gaming casinos and Palm Springs...

And Bakersfield--what's there? Tumbleweeds? I know they expanded, but most places got razed by the fires last year and floated out by the rains...

sugar and spice · #65 03-23-2005, 07:56 PM

(Not quite about Wisconsin, but I did my best. Minneapolis is the closest thing I have to a second home, y'all. I think it counts.)

"Shhh" - Atmosphere

Such a pleasure to come home
'Cause I . . . I have a very special love for this city

Well all right, well okay
Well all right

I wanted to make a song about where I'm from
You know? Big up my home town, my territory, my state
But I couldn't figure out much to brag about
Prince lives here, we got 10,000 lakes *
But wait, the women are beautiful, to me they are
And we're not infested with pretentious movie stars
And it hit me, Minnesota is dope
If only simply for not what we have but what we don't
It's all fair, it ain't out there, it's in there
It's in the mirror, behind the breast, under the hair
Follow the dream doesn't mean leave the love
Roam if you must, but come home when you've seen enough
I love New York and Cali, but I ain't movin'
Too overpopulated, saturated with humans
And I'm not big on rappers, actors, or models
If I had to dip, I'd probably skip to Chicago
None of this is to diss no one, nowhere
Like damn, I'm from Minnesota, land of the cold air
Too many mosquitoes and our fair share of egos
But like my man Sabe says, that's where my mommy stays

So if the people laugh and giggle when you tell em where you live
Say shhh, say shhh
And if you know this is where you wanna raise your kids
Say shhh, say shhh
If you're from the Midwest and it doesn't matter where
Say shhh, say shhh
If you can drink tap water and breathe the air
Say shhh, say shhh

Got trees and vegetation in the city I stay
The rent's in the mail and I can always find a parking space
The women outnumber the men two to one
Got parks and zoos and things to do with my son
The nightlife ain't all that, but that's okay
I don't need to be distracted by the devil every day
And the jobs ain't really too hard to find
In fact, you could have mine if you knew how to rhyme
This is for everyone around the planet
That wishes they were from somewhere other than where they standin'
Don't take it for granted, instead take a look around
Quit complaining and build something on that ground
Plant something on that ground, dance and sleep on that ground
Get on your hands and knees and watch the ants walk around that ground
Make a family, make magic, make a mess
Take the stress, feel your motivation and build your nest
It sucks that you think where I'm from is wack
But as long as that's enough to keep your ass from coming back
And with a smile and a hint of sarcasm, he said,
"I beg your pardon but this is my secret garden."

All right
(In the land of ice and snow)
Well okay
(In the land of ice and snow)
Well all right
(In the land of ice and snow)
Well okay
(Minneapolis, Minneapolis, Minneapolis, Minneapolis)

If the playground is clear of stems and syringes
Say shhh, say shhh
If there's only one store in your town that sells 12-inches
Say shhh, say shhh
If no one in your crew walks around with a gun
Say shhh, say shhh
And if you ain't gonna leave cause this is where you're from
Say shhh, say shhh

Well alright, well okay
St. Cloud, Minnesota
Mankato, Minnesota
Duluth, Minnesnowta
Kansas City
St Louis, Missouri
Columbia, Missouri
Oshkosh, Wisconsin **
Madison
Milwaukee
Cincinnati, Ohio
Columbus, Ohio
Boulder, Colorado
Lawrence, Kansas
Tulsa, Oklahoma
Sioux Falls, South Dakota
Ann Arbor, Michigan
Indianapolis
Say shhh . . .
Minneapolis . . .

* Minnesota: 11,000 lakes
Wisconsin: 14,000 lakes

Just so you know.

** How can you not love a song that shouts out to Sloshkosh?

AKA_Monet · #66 03-23-2005, 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
I don't know. Whenever someone likes to brag about California, I bring up the Governator. That usually makes them stop.

I heard the Governator is doing pretty well there... Getting Kollyfornia outta debt... However, I am sure the Franchise Tax Board would like to have a talk with me. But I didn't make money in Cali this year, so I am dayum sho' ain't payin' those MF's for taxes... But they always gotta a way to take money away from good old native Californians that no longer live in the state...

ADPi Conniebama · #67 03-23-2005, 08:42 PM

"I heard Mr. Young sing about 'em
I heard ol' Neil put 'er down
I hope Neil Young (and that guy from the internet) will remember
A SOUTHERN MAN DON'T NEED HIM AROUND ANYHOW"

---------------don't be mean to me it is just a quote from a song --------

and hey my mother is never wrong . . . . . and I don't have to be politically correct < that is for liberals and whiners

RACooper · #68 03-23-2005, 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by ADPi Conniebama
"I heard Mr. Young sing about 'em
I heard ol' Neil put 'er down
I hope Neil Young (and that guy from the internet) will remember
A SOUTHERN MAN DON'T NEED HIM AROUND ANYHOW"

---------------don't be mean to me it is just a quote from a song --------

and hey my mother is never wrong . . . . . and I don't have to be politically correct < that is for liberals and whiners

Nice....

Can't stand 'Sweet Home Alabama' because of those lyrics alone...

I have to ask - do you know what Neil Young's song was, and what it was about?

BigCityStripper · #69 03-23-2005, 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by RACooper
Nice....

Can't stand 'Sweet Home Alabama' because of those lyrics alone...

I have to ask - do you know what Neil Young's song was, and what it was about?

You do know the context under which "Alabama" was written and the true meaning of its lyrics, right?

valkyrie · #70 03-23-2005, 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
Psh. Our Governors balls may be smaller than yours but did your governor defeat the T-1000? Did yours teach a kindergarten class while catching a criminal? Did yours win Mr. Olympic?

I don't chink so!

My governor is a panty waisted asshole. I don't even know what panty waisted means, but I think it would apply here.

ADPi Conniebama · #71 03-23-2005, 11:14 PM

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ARTIST: Neil Young
TITLE: Southern Man

Southern man better keep your head
Don't forget what your good book said
Southern change gonna come at last
Now your crosses are burning fast
Southern man

I saw cotton and I saw black
Tall white mansions and little shacks
Southern man when will you pay them back
I heard screamin' and bullwhips cracking
How long? How long?

Lily Belle, your hair is golden brown
I've seen your black man comin' round
Swear by God I'm gonna cut him down
I heard screamin' and bullwhips cracking
How long? How long?
______________________________________________

I assume YOU think "southern man" is a fantastic song. A very politically incorrect song and very closed minded and assuming of the "southern man" inability to grow and learn.

Ok I that is my last post to this thread. It was fun while it lasted.
"God Bless America","Let Freedom Ring","From Sea to Shining Sea"

kafromTN · #72 03-23-2005, 11:33 PM

Actually it was 2 Neil Young songs that were responding to (Southern Man& Alabama), the response was to these specific lyrics to "Southern Man":

Better keep your head
Don't forget
what your good book said
Southern change
gonna come at last
Now your crosses
are burning fast
Southern man
I saw cotton
and I saw black
Tall white mansions
and little shacks.
Southern man
when will you
pay them back?
I heard screamin'
and bullwhips cracking
How long? How long?

And "Alabama"'s lyrics:

Oh Alabama
Banjos playing
through the broken glass
Windows down in Alabama.
See the old folks
tied in white ropes
Hear the banjo.
Don't it take you down home?

(got this from http://www.thrasherswheat.org/jammin/lynyrd.htm but I was aware of this before as I do have the Harvest CD which Alabama is on and I grew up listening to all kinds of music)

As to the "context" Sweet Home Alabama was written (this needs to be distinguished from Young's Alabama) and it's true meaning to its lyrics is basically saying leave us alone. I know you will say, Lynyrd Skynyrd is racist as they use the line "In Birmingham they love the governor"

Wallace being the governor & a segrationist at the time& Birmingham being where the 4 girls died in the church blast. Right after this line "Boo hoo hoo" is said, now the people who want it to be racist say it was a "wink" to the racists when in actuality they were saying they don't like the racist policies of Wallace. The problem is that Lynyrd Skynyrd is not racist, they just have southern pride. Now their pride in the region they come from will be attacked, I'm sure, but it's like being proud of the fraternity or sorority you're a member of, you know the adage "from the outside looking in, people can't understand it, but from the outside looking in you can't explain it."

I'm sure someone will point out "oh, but Mark, Lynyrd Skynyrd plays in front of a large confederate flag, they must be racist" to that I say you have to have an understanding of the South, not just in historical view point but also the culture. The confederate flag's correct nonmenclature is confederate naval jack (the battle flag is a square and the naval jack is rectangular) this is different from the various Official Confederate flags (e.g. Bonnie Blue).
Please go to http://americancivilwar.com/south/conflag/southflg.html to view the various flags.

If you say that since racist groups have used the confederate naval jack we should totally abandon it, I ask haven't those same groups used the Bible, should we abandon use of that? Just b/c a group misuses a symbol doesn't change the meaning to what the group says it is.

You may also wonder why someone would care about something that happened so long ago. Well why do people display a flag like the flag Betsy Ross made? It is history, why forget about it?

The confederate flag conversation could fill up multiple threads, so I'm not going to go into all the reasons why it is unfair to label someone racist just b/c they display a confederate naval jack or any other confederate flag.

-Mark

GeekyPenguin · #73 03-23-2005, 11:56 PM

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Originally posted by ADPi Conniebama
I think that liberals are so very mad at George Bush and his conservative politics and are more mad the there are more of us then there are of them. (please find a pic of the red and blue counties [from the 04 election]http://www.kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/000943.html it is much more impressive then the red and blue states - there are alot of red northern counties)

More red counties than blue counties does not mean more red people than blue people in a given state. Example: Wisconsin.

valkyrie · #74 03-24-2005, 12:03 AM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
More red counties than blue counties does not mean more red people than blue people in a given state. Example: Wisconsin.

Wow GP, I can't believe I missed what you quoted there because I totally would've made fun of it!

GeekyPenguin · #75 03-24-2005, 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
Wow GP, I can't believe I missed what you quoted there because I totally would've made fun of it!

I quote because I care.