Oscar Awards '06: - Page 5

newpsalmistgirl · #61 03-06-2006, 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by AKA2D '91
LAWD! The folks and their jig...have mercy! LOL

(Playing Devil's Advocate for the Academy), remember black folks complained that we were being nominated for the Oscar. Now, we are nominated and have won and 'you people' still aren't satisfied.

I hear you on that... But it is interesting that "we" only win oscars when we play roles that are extra stereotypically black. In lostnfounds blog, someone mentioned the roles that we have won for, and each one of them are DEGRADINGLY stereotypical... They truly are laughing at us and not with us. I am very proud of the achievement but not the cost...

and lostnfound... some how I missed the singing cat the first go 'round... HILARIOUS!

SKEEphistAKAte · #62 03-06-2006, 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by OhioCentaur
How can people who have Lucifer you are god lucifer you are king in the hook of their song say thank you Jesus?

I am in a total outrage at that.

Listen to stay fly... that girl mumbling in the back ground is singing about Lucifer and the crazy part is one of the rappers says lucifer twice before they start their verse... thisis craziness... i used to love there music now i'm afraid to listen to it...

I've never heard any of this. Reminds me of Bone Thugz n Harmony, they talked about the devil in all of their songs.

newpsalmistgirl · #63 03-06-2006, 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by SKEEphistAKAte
I've never heard any of this. Reminds me of Bone Thugz n Harmony, they talked about the devil in all of their songs.

I've never heard of three six talking about lucifer either... Not to say that it hasn't happened... What song is that from?

SKEEphistAKAte · #64 03-06-2006, 04:11 PM

^^ Ok, so I just listened to "Stay Fly" and she COULD be saying that, but it isn't clear...I think it's a stretch.

OhioCentaur · #65 03-06-2006, 04:11 PM

Stay fly-y-y-y-y-y

nikki1920 · #66 03-06-2006, 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by newpsalmistgirl
I hear you on that... But it is interesting that "we" only win oscars when we play roles that are extra stereotypically black. In lostnfounds blog, someone mentioned the roles that we have won for, and each one of them are DEGRADINGLY stereotypical... They truly are laughing at us and not with us. I am very proud of the achievement but not the cost...

and lostnfound... some how I missed the singing cat the first go 'round... HILARIOUS!

I was thinking that this am and came to this conclusion: we have to make films that ppl can relate to (Training Day, Hustle and Flow) so that they can get used to black folks making movies about other stuff that's more realistic from OUR point of view rather than THEIRS. Does that make sense? You have to do what's comfortable for the majority before you can show them your reality. That's my thoughts on it.

Gina1201 · #67 03-06-2006, 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by lostnfound117
I couldn't help but write a blog about it:

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...6-9c89def77eb3

That cat had me CTFU

OhioCentaur · #68 03-06-2006, 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by SKEEphistAKAte
^^ Ok, so I just listened to "Stay Fly" and she COULD be saying that, but it isn't clear...I think it's a stretch.

I'm not saying i've seen the lyrics printed anywhere BUT i heard a message from an evangelist and that was his whole message was about... subliminal messages in rap and hip hop music.....

enigma_AKA · #69 03-06-2006, 05:57 PM

Emmm, that 'woman' singing is a sped up Willie Hutch sample. You might know him better as the one who wrote/sang the soundtracks for 'The Mack' (1973) and 'Foxy Brown' (1975), amongst others. The song sampled is "Tell Me Why Our Love Turned Cold".

ETA: Not that ^^^ that actually helps, but finding the Lucifer connection might be a stretch. At least for me!

enigma_AKA

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Originally posted by OhioCentaur
How can people who have Lucifer you are god lucifer you are king in the hook of their song say thank you Jesus?

I am in a total outrage at that.

Listen to stay fly... that girl mumbling in the back ground is singing about Lucifer and the crazy part is one of the rappers says lucifer twice before they start their verse... thisis craziness... i used to love there music now i'm afraid to listen to it...

OhioCentaur · #70 03-06-2006, 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by enigma_AKA
Emmm, that 'woman' singing is a sped up Willie Hutch sample. You might know him better as the one who wrote/sang the soundtracks for 'The Mack' (1973) and 'Foxy Brown' (1975), amongst others. The song sampled is "Tell Me Why Our Love Turned Cold".

enigma_AKA

So its not devil music??? Good... lol i was really starting to get worked up because i really like the song... as a matter of fact i almost didnt want to participate in a stroll competition coming up because that was one of the songs we might stroll too... Thank you for that bit of information.

AKA2D '91 · #71 03-06-2006, 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by nikki1920
I was thinking that this am and came to this conclusion: we have to make films that ppl can relate to (Training Day, Hustle and Flow) so that they can get used to black folks making movies about other stuff that's more realistic from OUR point of view rather than THEIRS. Does that make sense? You have to do what's comfortable for the majority before you can show them your reality. That's my thoughts on it.

I see, I think. Maybe Spike would have been more "acceptable" in the late 80s if he would not have come on so strong. I guess he would have done better by doing some okey doke movie, then came hard LATER with Do The Right Thing, Malcolm X, etc.

Obsession8 · #72 03-06-2006, 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by AKA2D '91
LAWD! The folks and their jig...have mercy! LOL

(Playing Devil's Advocate for the Academy), remember black folks complained that we were being nominated for the Oscar. Now, we are nominated and have won and 'you people' still aren't satisfied.

Co-sign, Soror Moderator. Don't get me wrong, I have moments of being conflicted, too. But, I'm a *HUGE* Oscars fan, and I try my best (as a self-proclaimed movie critic as well) to think unbiasedly and not read too much into why such "controversial" roles get nominated/awarded (i.e. as if to say the Academy is purposely trying to embarass us, promote negative images, etc).

Queen Latifah made an interesting point on E!'s post-Oscars coverage that the Academy is becoming more in touch with youth, since many voters have kids who are into hip-hop, etc. Maybe this (and Eminem's win 3 years ago) is a reflection of that. We have a long way to go, but at least we're making some progress.

To quote "our" first Oscar winner (and SGRho soror) Ms. Hattie McDaniel: "I'd rather play a maid than be one."

Obsession8 · #73 03-06-2006, 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by nikki1920
I was thinking that this am and came to this conclusion: we have to make films that ppl can relate to (Training Day, Hustle and Flow) so that they can get used to black folks making movies about other stuff that's more realistic from OUR point of view rather than THEIRS. Does that make sense? You have to do what's comfortable for the majority before you can show them your reality. That's my thoughts on it.

Makes sense to me; good perspective, SF.

AKA_Monet · #74 03-06-2006, 07:19 PM

Well, y'all know movies that actually do mean something in the African American community rarely get greenlighted and distributed into the theaters...

However, Tyler Perry is the exception to that rule. His magic for his last 2 movies and the money he made is very interesting...

AKA2D '91 · #75 03-06-2006, 07:26 PM

Tyler has taken matters into his own hands, also the help of Lion's Gate didn't hurt. But, I do not foresee "Madea Knockin' Folks Out to Get Her Pistol for the Sense of Peace" will get nominated for an Oscar.

But, if 3 6 Mafia can get nominated AND WIN, anything is possible.