Strom Thurmond Dies at 100:Only 9 members of Capitol HIll attend funeral

[lionlove]

hello, sorry to invade your board.

I did not know he had a black daughter. Did he marry/sleep with a black woman? Was she adopted? Can someone fill me in with the details? Thanks

Anyways, thanks for starting this thread. The one over in chit chat was annoying me.

[Eclipse]

Originally posted by lionlove
hello, sorry to invade your board.

I did not know he had a black daughter. Did he marry/sleep with a black woman? Was she adopted? Can someone fill me in with the details? Thanks

Anyways, thanks for starting this thread. The one over in chit chat was annoying me.

Here's the link from the thread that was on DST Blvd

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...Strom+Thurmond

[AXO Alum]

Originally posted by RedefinedDiva
Stop trying to blend everyone into on perfect little non-colored/one-colored package. God created us as such. Some people need to stop trying to devalue our experience as Black Americans and take what we say into consideration.

I guess that this is the problem where some people expect to draw lines in the dirt and say that its either this way or that way, but not both. Like the AA thread -- I mean, sure, AA can have a very positive effect, or a very negative effect -- it all depends on HOW it is used. Unfortunately, someone says blahblahblah about it, and then the next thing you know, a flame war has erupted. You know, I used to never go on CC -- I did recently for something, and ended up finding out REAL quick that its prolly not the best place for me. I have too many "gray" areas on my views of things, that people (especially there) expect to be either white or black (as in colors on the chart -- not skin tones).

I think that a big problem regarding race, color of skin, what-have-you, is that people only KNOW what they have experienced in life. So if Sally has only lived her 20 years of life knowing that people in her school are white, black, green, and red -- she really has no experience with the fact that just a few years prior to that, that people who weren't white weren't even allowed in school! The same applies for my friend who was the first black girl to attend public school -- even now, all these years later, she cannot get over the fact that not all people are trying to get her (I included somewhere the story where she parked in a maternity parking space in the mall - she isn't pregnant and has no small kids - and said that she was parking there because she knew that it wasn't really for pregnant people, but rather so that the mall officials could keep black folks from parking up front! -- Yes, she can get carried away!) I can totally sympathize with the stories she tells about being spit on and hit in the halls -- and that is a TERRIBLE thing that NO ONE should have to live through -- but she also needs to realize that parking spots aren't designated that way!

Some people also can't look past race to know that you can talk about things regarding race, without always having to make a war about it -- this goes for black and white folks!

If there was a perfect world out there then we could all share our stories and experiences and really learn from each other -- but that isn't the case, and unfortunately, you get people on a touchy subject, and somebody somewhere is going to go overboard with it! Then people are dumb enough (okay, using that loosely) to agitate it knowing that they aren't going to get anywhere with it! Next thing you know....BOOM....Chit (Chat) happens -- heehee, okay, so they just come to me!

[lionlove]

Originally posted by Eclipse
Here's the link from the thread that was on DST Blvd

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...Strom+Thurmond

Thanks for the link

[RedefinedDiva]

Originally posted by AXO Alum
I guess that this is the problem where some people expect to draw lines in the dirt and say that its either this way or that way, but not both. Like the AA thread -- I mean, sure, AA can have a very positive effect, or a very negative effect -- it all depends on HOW it is used. Unfortunately, someone says blahblahblah about it, and then the next thing you know, a flame war has erupted. You know, I used to never go on CC -- I did recently for something, and ended up finding out REAL quick that its prolly not the best place for me. I have too many "gray" areas on my views of things, that people (especially there) expect to be either white or black (as in colors on the chart -- not skin tones).

I think that a big problem regarding race, color of skin, what-have-you, is that people only KNOW what they have experienced in life. So if Sally has only lived her 20 years of life knowing that people in her school are white, black, green, and red -- she really has no experience with the fact that just a few years prior to that, that people who weren't white weren't even allowed in school! The same applies for my friend who was the first black girl to attend public school -- even now, all these years later, she cannot get over the fact that not all people are trying to get her (I included somewhere the story where she parked in a maternity parking space in the mall - she isn't pregnant and has no small kids - and said that she was parking there because she knew that it wasn't really for pregnant people, but rather so that the mall officials could keep black folks from parking up front! -- Yes, she can get carried away!) I can totally sympathize with the stories she tells about being spit on and hit in the halls -- and that is a TERRIBLE thing that NO ONE should have to live through -- but she also needs to realize that parking spots aren't designated that way!

Some people also can't look past race to know that you can talk about things regarding race, without always having to make a war about it -- this goes for black and white folks!

If there was a perfect world out there then we could all share our stories and experiences and really learn from each other -- but that isn't the case, and unfortunately, you get people on a touchy subject, and somebody somewhere is going to go overboard with it! Then people are dumb enough (okay, using that loosely) to agitate it knowing that they aren't going to get anywhere with it! Next thing you know....BOOM....Chit (Chat) happens -- heehee, okay, so they just come to me!

You brought up some very interesting points that I am glad you shared. (And I agree. Your friend is just a tad bit extreme!)Yes, some people (all races included) don't know how to see past their own race and their life experiences. The problems arise, however, when those people totally shut themselves off from even hearing, let alone learning, about others. We all need to learn how to take the experiences and lives of others into consideration.

I think not living in a perfect world makes some of us stronger and more eager to share and serve our communities in a means to, at least, reach one person. Some people are going to be who they are and constantly create controversy. Oh well. As long as there a few open-minded people in the world that understand or are willing to learn, then some of our "rants" are not in vain.

[honeychile]

Ladies, I've just read through this thread and found some terribly interesting responses. I know that I will be reflecting on many of the comments for weeks to come. I'm mindful of the response that one of Sally Hemings' descendants made upon being asked if she attended the meeting of Thomas Jefferson's descendants in hopes of being asked to join, to which she responded (and I paraphrase), "I know I have the right to be here. I wanted to see if this is an organization to which I choose to belong!" Even as I type that, I worry that it may be inappropriate, and if I've offended, please forgive me.

Originally posted by RedefinedDiva
...Yes, some people (all races included) don't know how to see past their own race and their life experiences. The problems arise, however, when those people totally shut themselves off from even hearing, let alone learning, about others. We all need to learn how to take the experiences and lives of others into consideration.

I think not living in a perfect world makes some of us stronger and more eager to share and serve our communities in a means to, at least, reach one person. Some people are going to be who they are and constantly create controversy. Oh well. As long as there a few open-minded people in the world that understand or are willing to learn, then some of our "rants" are not in vain.

All I can add to this is a hearty AMEN!

[Ivy QT2]

Originally posted by AKA2D '91
I wonder what was said when he got to the Pearlie Gates? I wonder if he's still knocking?

Another "anti-Black" person died this week too. I forgot his name.

His name was Lester Maddox.

[CrimsonTide4]

I am glad to see so many have crossed as AKA2D called the "RR tracks" to discuss the passing of Strom Thurmond.


I was not as enlightened about Strom like others were so thanks to those of you who enlightened about Strom's politics. I do remember the infamous telephone book session though.

I value good, intelligent discussion where ideas are presented and even if you disagree, you still come away having gained further insight or information without name calling and insulting comments being exchanged.

[sweetie adpi]

i just wanted to stop by and "salute" the women who have tried to give more than just one perspective over on the cc board.

i think that what you said probably made some readers take time to think about the history behind thurmond... i know that you've helped to educate me ... the little i recalled from my high school american history class was a vague picture of the man involving his filibuster, but i didn't put two and two together on the reasoning behind it...

learning to consider various perspectives and wading through opinions is something that is difficult for many people, especially when they have limited experience. the more often you push others to do so, you *are* helping to end the backwards thinking and ignorance that still exists, even if you encounter some narrow minds (or um, strongly opinionated people, or whatnot) on the way...

so anyways, like i was saying, thanks for speaking up and knowing that it was important to do so, more than to just watch

[toocute]

Originally posted by lovelyivy84
I am with you guys. Good riddance. Hope he brought a fan. Maybe they'll give him one with MLK at the gates.

ROFL!!!! Maybe MLK will pass it to him and say C'ya!

I'm not evn going to go over to chit chat and read that mess.

[Dionysus]

I would also like to hop on the RefinedDiva and Bamboozled love train. It takes a lot of confidence and courage to go against the current, especially when it comes to sensitive topics such as politics, religion, and race relations. I really respect that.

[enlightenment06]

Do you think it's possible that he really did change? I mean, Malcolm had a change in ideology as well as Minister Farrakhan. I'm not putting Strom Thurmond in the same league as Malcolm or Minister Farrakhan (don't revoke my ghetto pass just yet!), I'm just saying maybe he really did have a change of heart?

Can anyone from SC enlighten me? Thanks.

[enlightenment06]

Oh yeah, I was over in the Chit Chat area, and it's vicious over there man! Straight gangsta!

[RedefinedDiva]

I just turned to the funeral for a minute and people are talking, laughing, joking, and whatnot. Not one person looks sad or broken up. Is it just me? Did I catch a bad clip? I'm just trying to get to the bottom of it...

[class&elegance]

I am in SC right now and everyone is soooo sad, all over the news saying how great Strom Thurmond has been to SC. Puhleeze, I remember not to long ago, they asked Thurmond if he was still racist and he said "No, I swim everyday." Huh, WTF?

Now his daughter, she is his not adopted. And he did take care of her. He claimed her, visited her at school, paid for college, and took care of her financially. But he has more than one black child, I just can't remember the details.

I must say, though, as racist as he was, Strom loved Black women. When I was in high school, we went to the capital and he was all over the Black girls-hugging, "mistakenly" touching them. Just makes you wonder...

Well, I am off to CC to see how wonderful Strom was ...