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08-26-2003, 01:38 PM
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Da Gas Face
WTH I paid 1.89 for regular!
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How gas prices got so high
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$2.09 a gallon? From a ruptured pipeline to Venezuelan strife, a confluence of factors keeps fuel costs high as Americans take to the road.
By The Christian Science Monitor
The nation's drivers are suffering from a high-octane case of sticker shock.
From Portland, Ore., where regular gas costs up to $2.09 a gallon, to Forestville, Md., where drivers are paying as much as $1.74 a gallon, consumers are getting drained in their wallets and socked in their tanks.
Nationally, gasoline prices are now 18 cents a gallon higher than they were a month ago, and 31 cents a gallon higher than at this time last year. A search on Gas Buddy.com found a Union 76 in Phoenix posting unleaded at $3.79 a gallon in the wake of a ruptured pipeline. Holy SUV!
"This is like a consumption tax on consumers," says Fred Dixon of the brokerage house D.A. Davidson in Lake Oswego, Ore., where he recently paid $1.95 for a gallon of fuel. He suspects that fuel prices could even dampen retail sales this quarter: "Six weeks of higher gas prices may eat into demand," he says. It could be a hidden drag on the economy."
Indeed, soaring prices affect almost all Americans, whose 240 million vehicles consume 5.8 billion gallons of fuel each week -- at an extra cost, given current fuel prices, of about $1 billion. If the price hikes hold steady, figures Standard & Poor's chief economist David Wyss, they'll nearly balance the tax cut, at about $60 billion this year.
Why gas prices just won't tank
The current gas spike comes as a surprise to many analysts. On Aug. 8, the Energy Information Administration wrote that gasoline prices would remain stable for the next two months and then decline. Now, Neil Gamson, an energy economist with the EIA, warns that higher prices may still be coming up. "We have some way at the pump to reflect higher spot prices," he says. "How much higher is hard to say because after Labor Day, demand starts falling off and imports could start to come in."
But surprising as they are to some, there are lots of reasons for rising prices.
Crude oil prices have stayed higher than expected, in part because it's taken longer to get Iraq back on line. In addition, about 300,000 to 400,000 barrels daily of Nigerian oil production are curtailed because of local political turmoil. At the same time, Venezuelan oil production has not returned to pre-strike levels. And on top of everything else, OPEC has cut back on quotas, says John Felmy, chief economist at the American Petroleum Institute (API).
The tight supplies coincide with relatively low inventories. Last week, the API reported crude-oil stocks at 279.3 million barrels -- just barely above the level the government considers necessary for the operation of refineries. Gasoline inventories are also low, but home-heating oil levels are starting to rise as companies prepare for winter.
The tightening supply situation may be tied to an improving economy. Some economists believe the nation's gross domestic product (GDP) is now rising as much as 4.5% to 5% annually -- double last quarter's rate. Felmy estimates that for every 1 percentage point increase in the GDP, there is a 0.4 percentage point increase in energy use. This could mean that the energy demand has increased by nearly 1 percentage point.
"There is no question (that) economic growth globally has led to an increased demand for energy," he says.
Drawn to the pavement
In the United States, Americans also appear to be driving more. The beginning of the summer was very wet in the East, curtailing some trips. But now, with a scorching August, people are traveling more, says Gamson.
This can be seen in the parking lot at the Grand Canyon Railroad in Arizona, where business is up by about 15% over last year.
"With terrorism alerts and the economy bad, people are visiting state and federal parks that they would normally not visit if they are going to Rome, Singapore, and London," says Tom Ripp, vice president of sales. "America is just plain driving."
And Americans are driving despite high fuel prices. In the Phoenix area, prices soared when a pipeline ruptured in the middle of a housing development. This reduced the amount of gas flowing into Phoenix by 60,000 barrels per day - over a third of the area's normal daily consumption.
Ripple effect on West Coast
According to Gas Buddy.com, the average price in Phoenix is now $2.10 a gallon, compared with $1.70 nationally.
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That's the price if you could get gasoline to buy it. Phoenix resident Daniel Duran says 45 percent of the gas stations in the area had no fuel last weekend. "There were fights and three-hour lines," says Duran, the manager of the Pinon Grill in Scottsdale. "My wife and I set our alarm for midnight to go fill up the car."
To meet demand, refiners moved fuel from southern California. But this had a ripple effect up and down the West Coast, raising fuel prices in areas where gas was diverted: Gasoline now costs up to $2.10 a gallon in the San Diego area.
Californians, who drive a lot, consider the result a real nuisance. Donelle Page, a professional harpist, drives about 4,000 miles a month to play at symphonies, weddings, and parties. Recently, the Modesto resident filled up her minivan to the tune of $39. "It has made an extreme difference in my life," she says. "You can't just change your prices because your costs are up."
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08-26-2003, 01:48 PM
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$1.58 in my neck o' the woods and i'm pissed. when i first bought my car in may, i was paying about $1.32!!!
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08-26-2003, 03:38 PM
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To answer my OWN question...TOO DAYUM MUCH!
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08-26-2003, 05:01 PM
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I depends on where you go. In Barstow, it's as high as 2.21 for regular unleaded, 2.31 for Plus, and 2.41 for premium.
Now what kind of sense does that make?
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08-26-2003, 05:16 PM
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Bring back the good ole days...
For those in Atlanta, do you remember when you could get gas for $.97 at the Quick Trip on Riverdale Road? And then go inside and get a jumbo cup of peach tea for $.59. Those were the days.
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08-26-2003, 07:36 PM
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On the west side of Dayton gas is $1.73, Huber Heights, $1.63, and downtown you'll pay $1.75. Too much!
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08-26-2003, 07:58 PM
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Average is $2.35 for premium in The O.C.
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08-26-2003, 08:34 PM
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$1.61 for regular & I drive a SUV, therefore I spend about a kafrillion dollars to fill 'er up!
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08-26-2003, 09:21 PM
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This is outta control
HC 2 weeks ago I paid $1.45 and then Monday $1.79? Thank God my CRV takes regular.
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08-27-2003, 02:12 AM
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Re: Bring back the good ole days...
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Originally posted by SkeeWee14
For those in Atlanta, do you remember when you could get gas for $.97 at the Quick Trip on Riverdale Road? And then go inside and get a jumbo cup of peach tea for $.59. Those were the days.
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I remember back (circa 93/94) when I bought gass from the Quick Trip for 73 cents! Shell gas was 99 cents. Then I had to move back to LA and pay 1.25, I was hot!
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08-27-2003, 05:22 AM
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Lucky you are not in the Pacific NW
In Vancouver, Canada it is 91 cents per litre (Canadian). 4 litres is slightly more than a gallon. So for a gallon it is $3.64 Canadian per gallon. If you convert it to US dollars (it takes $1.39 Canadian to make $1 US)
The bottom line $2.62 US per gallon in Western Canada.
You know it is bad when you put $15 CDN ($11 US) of gas in your Kia and it only fills the tank half way
Now if you hop in hoopty and drive for 15 minutes across the border, the cheapest gas right across the border in Blaine, WA is $1.99. Drive another 20 minutes south to where I work in Bellingham it is $1.91 (if you got a discount card, it is $1.88)
Translation: Due to prices across the border, you will see a lot of these folx:
Them Canadians got no problems making a run for the border! We (my mother in law, husband and I will only fill up in the US now)
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08-27-2003, 11:31 AM
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Re: Lucky you are not in the Pacific NW
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Originally posted by Jill1228
Translation: Due to prices across the border, you will see a lot of these folx:
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You'll also see a lot of compact and sub-compact cars (which actually makes me kind of happy). The price of gas and car ownership in this province is OUT OF CONTROL. Mistermadly and I are thinking of enrolling in a car sharing program, just to cut costs.
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08-27-2003, 08:47 PM
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Re: Bring back the good ole days...
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Originally posted by SkeeWee14
For those in Atlanta, do you remember when you could get gas for $.97 at the Quick Trip on Riverdale Road? And then go inside and get a jumbo cup of peach tea for $.59. Those were the days.
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I had a temp job out in Conyers in '99 and gas out there was $0.69 a gallon.
Gas in this part of town(Clayton/Henry)was under a dollar a couple of summers ago, but it went back up after a month or so.
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08-28-2003, 02:09 AM
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Re: Re: Lucky you are not in the Pacific NW
Not to mention high car insurance because there are so many crappy drivers!
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Originally posted by Sistermadly
You'll also see a lot of compact and sub-compact cars (which actually makes me kind of happy). The price of gas and car ownership in this province is OUT OF CONTROL. Mistermadly and I are thinking of enrolling in a car sharing program, just to cut costs.
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04-08-2004, 09:05 AM
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I paid $1.63 for some unleaded yesterday so I know how Grandpa feels
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