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Old 10-26-2002, 09:31 PM
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Old 10-27-2002, 12:19 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: re: coasters

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How odd of you to say that Steeltrap. Almost every man I know has used date rape drugs to make his life easier at one point or another.

The most common date-rape-drug, used in like 99.9 percent of date rapes, acquaintance rape and Gee-I-Regret-I-Did-That-Last-Night-Lets-Ruin-His-Life-Rape, is alcohol.
The difference I see is that women generally have a choice whether to begin drinking. Being slipped a powerful drug without their knowledge is something entirely different.

Granted at some point judgement becomes impaired, but the option to quit before that point is always there.

Besides, a guy might choose a "mean drunk" and get his butt kicked.
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Old 10-27-2002, 01:31 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: re: coasters

I agree, but a common definition of date rape now is to have sex with an inebriated girl.

In fact, there have been arguments, and its been advanced on our campus, that even one drink can be too many if the girl chooses to take exception the next day.

So the guys is supposed to assess the degree of inebriation, willingness and basically take an educated guess based on risk.


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The difference I see is that women generally have a choice whether to begin drinking. Being slipped a powerful drug without their knowledge is something entirely different.

Granted at some point judgement becomes impaired, but the option to quit before that point is always there.

Besides, a guy might choose a "mean drunk" and get his butt kicked.
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Old 10-27-2002, 01:34 PM
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Also, and ladies feel free to chime in, I have heard girls say in the past:

"He got me drunk and took advantage of me, he's a jerk (or stronger word)"

Or

"He took advantage of me while I was drunk . . ."

So isn't that the same scenario just using alcohol to create a more fertile environement for sex?

But I do agree that its more extreme to say slip a drug that renders you unconscious into a drink, carry you out, and rape an unconscious body.
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Old 10-27-2002, 03:46 PM
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Also, and ladies feel free to chime in, I have heard girls say in the past:

"He got me drunk and took advantage of me, he's a jerk (or stronger word)"

Or

"He took advantage of me while I was drunk . . ."

So isn't that the same scenario just using alcohol to create a more fertile environement for sex?
NO WAY!!! how can you even compare the 2????? being SLIPPED something that you don't know about is NOT the same as choosing to drink. "more fertile environment"????? that is just disgusting. how can you say that????

and YES, guys can take advantage of a girl when she is drunk. there is a difference between choosing to drink with a guy and getting yourself drunk, and being drunk already and a guy takes advantage of that. huge difference. is this the case all the time? of course not. but to say that women always cry foul and it is never the guy's fault is sickening.
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Old 10-27-2002, 03:50 PM
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advantage of that. huge difference. is this the case all the time? of course not. but to say that women always cry foul and it is never the guy's fault is sickening.
And to say that it never happens is just as sickening.
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Old 10-27-2002, 04:11 PM
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And to say that it never happens is just as sickening.
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Old 10-27-2002, 04:19 PM
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When is the guy taking advantage of the girl when she wants to have sex but she is drunk?

At what point is he supposed to say:

"Wooaaahh Nelly! We need to get you back to the stable, Frisky little philly like you doesn't want to be ridden when you are in that state! Obviously you just aren't thinking clearly."


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and YES, guys can take advantage of a girl when she is drunk. there is a difference between choosing to drink with a guy and getting yourself drunk, and being drunk already and a guy takes advantage of that. huge difference. is this the case all the time? of course not. but to say that women always cry foul and it is never the guy's fault is sickening.
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Old 10-27-2002, 04:30 PM
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Actully it is the same thing. IF the girl is too drunk to turn down another drink, or even if it isn't, but you paid for the beer or whatever or got it for her or handed it to, its the same as slipping her a roofie. It is now, anyway.
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Old 10-28-2002, 03:08 PM
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I think most cases of chicks thinking they've been slipped a date rape drug is just an exaggeration of being extremely drunk.

They don't want to look like a lush so they say...."Oh, I must have been slipped GHB since I was acting liek an idiot..."

Stupid chicks!!!!

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you moron!
I agree with everything said here. You're an idiot DeltAlum
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