Groove Phi Groove

[Lady Pi Phi]

Cardiac,

I am glad that you chose to share information about your organization. I think it's great when we can be proud of the organization we're involved and want to share as much as we can about it. I love being a Pi Beta Phi, I'm sure as much as you love being Groove Phi Groove. It doesn't matter if you identify your organization as a GLO or other. If you can be proud of the things your organization stands for, then it's all good to me. So I want to thank you for enlightening me about Groove Phi Groove.

To other Greek Chatters,

This topic got way out of hand. It should have not been about homosexual tendencies of ancient greeks, imperialism, "stealing", etc. There is not once race or ethnic group on this planet that is not guilty of something. There is not one race or ethnic group, that hasn't killed or taken something from another group.
As one person mentioned before. Not all history is wrong, but it's not all accurate either.
To everyone out there, history is written by the victors...whom ever they may be.

Pi Phi Love and Mine,

Emily

[bro_strawter]

Originally posted by Cardiac
You know what for the sake of arguement I will repeat myself.
As far as "copying" from Greek lettered orgs. The idea of have lines with nummbers and such came from masons so if we copy anyone it would be them. And as far Stepping, we step because it's of African Tradition and my brotherhood seeks to encompass as many different aspects of our African American and African culture as possible.

I've been feeling some of the things you've said. However, lines and line numbers came from BGLO's...not us Masons. Sorry

[moe.ron]

Originally posted by NewBee
Africa is a diverse continent and it does none of us justice to ASSume that all Africans look or act the same or have the same culture/religion.

I totally agree with you. That is why I have never liked it when school opened an AFrican or Asian studies. I always wondered, ok, which Africa or Asia do you want to study? Even within the same geographical area, people are different. Look within Southern Africa (my specialty ) The Xhosa, Zulu are two different ethnic groups with different histories and languages and believes. By the way, the original habitant of South Africa are not those two groups but the Bushman. They are the people God Must Be Crazy were based on. Even politically they are different with the Xhosa dominating the African National Congress and the Zulu with the Inkhata Freedom Party. Same with Asian studies, most Asian studies concentrate on East Asia. Yet they ignored South Asia, Western Asia, and others.

[observant1]

Originally posted by Cardiac
I'm way beyond that name calling and what not so i'm moving on and pretending she doesn't exist. I think she should do the same for me.

But yet you also stated:

"Won't sound like such and idiot"

"I WILL NOT address your childish anticts...take your pathetic self to http://www.highschoolclub.com where there are plenty of people on your intellectual level."

"Listsen shorty........"

Again I'll restate the TOUCHY and emphasize the IMMATURE. If you are so secure and happy you wouldn't be so rude and defensive.

People steal things from other people all the time. It's a part of life. The people who have had things stolen can't get mad, cause there's really nothing they can do about it. The people who steal will get slack for stealing. Deal with it.

You can't inform people of your org, tell mistruths and not expect to someone to question your stance or CORRECT your wrong findings.

[Cardiac]

I stand corrected. Then they got the line and numbers from the white orgs. My bad.

[pollywogg23]

Though some of the posts on this thread got a little out of hand, I'm glad to have read it! I'd never heard of Groove Phi Groove before. It sounds like an upstanding organization.
I love my Sorority and am generally very touchy when people start to tear apart GLO's, however it was good to learn about what seems to be a good organization, even though some of the posts seemed clouded in negativity.

[librasoul22]

Originally posted by Cardiac
I stand corrected. Then they got the line and numbers from the white orgs. My bad.

Which white orgs have line names and line numbers? Can you prove this?

Thought not.

It doesn't matter as long as you realize that you "stole" that from BGLO's.

[Senusret I]

I hate to continue this if it isn't about Groove Phi Groove. . .but to answer your question. . .

My chapter of Alpha Phi Omega has pledged in lines at least since Bill Clinton pledged, and most likely since the genesis of the chapter.

Our chapter was influenced by the professional foreign service fraternity Delta Phi Epsilon and the ROTC fraternity Spraker Rifles. Spraker doesn't exist on campus anymore, but DPE still pledges in line as well.

My chapter was never influenced by any BGLO; we were founded in 1956 and the first BGLO did not come to Georgetown until the late '70's.

Now, I'm not saying that any single GLO originated pledging in lines or nicknames, but my guess is that pledging in lines came from the military and influenced various organizations at the same time, such as when young men coming back home from either of the world wars began to enroll in college under the GI Bill.

Originally posted by librasoul22


Which white orgs have line names and line numbers? Can you prove this?

Thought not.

It doesn't matter as long as you realize that you "stole" that from BGLO's.

[librasoul22]

Originally posted by dardenr
I hate to continue this if it isn't about Groove Phi Groove. . .but to answer your question. . .

My chapter of Alpha Phi Omega has pledged in lines at least since Bill Clinton pledged, and most likely since the genesis of the chapter.

Our chapter was influenced by the professional foreign service fraternity Delta Phi Epsilon and the ROTC fraternity Spraker Rifles. Spraker doesn't exist on campus anymore, but DPE still pledges in line as well.

My chapter was never influenced by any BGLO; we were founded in 1956 and the first BGLO did not come to Georgetown until the late '70's.

Now, I'm not saying that any single GLO originated pledging in lines or nicknames, but my guess is that pledging in lines came from the military and influenced various organizations at the same time, such as when young men coming back home from either of the world wars began to enroll in college under the GI Bill.

You must understand that BGLO's were founded in the early teens/twenties.

My post was based on Cardiac's assertion that BGLO's derived their line names/numbers from "white org's" which I took to mean traditionally white Greek Lettered Organizations.

The bottom line is the focus is not whether or not BGLO's stole anything from anyone. Due to his lack of knowledge, Cardiac has effectively shifted the focus of this topic away from his org. The point to this whole thing is that gphig claims its originality as a main precept, while not being original at all. That was the root of my original question, as well as some other's questions, but it is something he refuses to give an outright answer to.

[showstopper_1908]

Originally posted by librasoul22


Which white orgs have line names and line numbers? Can you prove this?

Thought not.

It doesn't matter as long as you realize that you "stole" that from BGLO's.

Yes, I was just about to ask the same question. I saw a post that stated maybe it came from the military, which I don't consider to be a "white org.". I know members of various NPC and IFC orgs and they never said anything about line names or numbers. Only a few of them know what I am talking about when I say line name or number. (This wasn't a call for Greeks to tell how they know what it means, I was just saying that many of my friends/associates don't know what it is).
Thank You.

[Cardiac]

I have answered all the questions anybody has asked on this forum about my organization. Fact of the matter is that we have a "person" on here who's only aim is to attempt to atagonize me and i'm too old for the school yard games.

Like i said if any intelligent person has a question I'll answer it. I ain't never ran from Nothin in my life. So hit me up. I ain't going nowhere.

[pollywogg23]

Hey Cardiac,
I recall you saying that there were many chapters of GPhiG, do you have any in California? If so do you know which schools they are at. I'm only curios because I haven't heard of the organization before, and if we have some in my area I would love to know what good things they're up to. In my opinion you can never have enough people out there helping others less fortunate, no matter why they were founded.
Thanks!

[Cardiac]

I know we have some bros at Cal State North ridge but I really couldn't tell you what they are up to. I know we have a La Grad and a Southern Cali Grad. If you want to know what they are doing hit up smokin_gunz@yahoo.com He could tell you more then i could.

[Maharet]

Wonderfully and colorfully said! Is it me, or did this forum just get a little warmer?! Where were you when I was looking for an intelligent date? I'm highly impressed.

[Groovin PVU003]

I see all these people gaining up on my Bro, what the brother is trying to do is give the nonmemebers and nonbelievers a way to believe. The critics will always be critics no matter how many facts you give them. There mind set is to criticize the writer to make him feel down. But, I see my brother held his own. Groove is beyond Greek and non-Greek status, Groove is in everyone if they choose to use it. I know I think so I know how to open my mind and see whats going on and not just what I personally believe. I am a Groove myself but my definition of Groove could be different from my Brothers. What I do know is that the Love that Groove has given me is the same as my brothers and the basic concept and reasoning of Groove is understood by every Brother in the organization in the same way. Better yourself and knowledge is power in everyway. Dont be ignorant and decieve yourself.