RFM question now that bid day is here - Page 5

Titchou · #1 09-02-2015, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ggforever

Okay, I am old and I have done hand bid matching, so I understand the process and love RFM and computers. But, I seem to remember in my aged brain that there was a time when campus total was the rule rather than quota. Each house had a different quota depending upon campus total and the number of women who returned after summer, removing all the graduates, women who dropped out of college or got married. I am just imagining it???

OK, I rushed in 1963 and we did not do this. Maybe it was just your school? Indiana still has a bed quota so it varies from house to house. Also, Arkansas has a two tier quota system. So it's not unheard of but it's not been the norm.

DubaiSis · #2 09-02-2015, 03:43 PM

It certainly sounds plausible.

Titchou · #3 09-03-2015, 05:33 PM

That's called grid lock and it can happen. And often does. In that case, the PNM causing the grid lock first is pulled and they move to the next one and match her. Then the pulled one is reinserted and things begin anew. It could happen multiple times and that's basically how it is done.

Griffins&Quills · #4 09-03-2015, 05:52 PM

No, there are definitely middle recruiting chapters...especially in the South. They'll be a good chapter on campus, but don't have that traditional "southern" name recognition. So PNMs like them but tend not to know much about them before they're in the party during Round 1.

At least in my experience.

SunflowerState · #5 09-08-2015, 09:41 PM

I vote for the video! Or a detailed manual. Thank you, LABGPhi. That was a fabulous explanation. I've searched the Internet for information. What's out there is minimal and doesn't explain the process half as well as you did. I'm a numbers/stats person. I need to understand the process. I'd love to see the intricacies explained. Looking forward to your video, Loyally Kappa and thank you.

SunflowerState · #6 09-09-2015, 08:03 PM

Would you answer a question for me about quota additions: what role does campus total play in divvying up those that maximized but didn't match initially? For example, PNM has 3 pref parties and lists them all on her bid card. All three groups get to quota before they get to her. Her first choice is over campus total by 10; her second is at total; and her third is under by 10. Who gets her? Second example, same assumptions but her first two choices are at total. Her third choice is under by one. Who gets her? Thank you!

Griffins&Quills · #7 09-09-2015, 08:11 PM

I think it depends on the RFM specialist and the campus. Sometimes she is placed with the smallest group, sometimes she is placed with her first choice. At least as far as I know.

Titchou · #8 09-09-2015, 09:19 PM

A lot depends on where the other left over women would place. If she's the only one left, I'd say she goes to her first choice. Otherwise, it's how all the rest shake out so it's hard to say.

SunflowerState · #9 09-10-2015, 10:15 PM

Thank you for your responses. This helps. So it is not by a rigid formula. I kept testing various variables to see if I could find a mathematical method that consistently worked. Now I know why it doesn't; the process has an arbitrary aspect to it! I love RFM and think it is leaps and bounds better than the old way....but I really do want to read a manual! Thanks, again, ladies.

NWGreek · #10 09-17-2015, 05:19 PM

My daughter is going thru recruitment and is seeing her favorites disappear each round and is feeling very disheartened. She still has a full schedule and I am encouraging her to be happy about the really strong chapters she still has on her list. However; there are a few she is really not loving that stay on her list each round. I am of course, anticipating the worst case scenario, so, for example, if she had 2 she really liked at Pref and one she really would not accept a bid from, what is the out come if she lists 2? If she got neither could she be eligible for a quota ad or a snap bid? I have never been clear about the difference. Thank you - I wish it were acceptable to have a glass of wine at work.....

HQWest · #11 09-17-2015, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NWGreek

My daughter is going thru recruitment and is seeing her favorites disappear each round and is feeling very disheartened. She still has a full schedule and I am encouraging her to be happy about the really strong chapters she still has on her list. However; there are a few she is really not loving that stay on her list each round. I am of course, anticipating the worst case scenario, so, for example, if she had 2 she really liked at Pref and one she really would not accept a bid from, what is the out come if she lists 2? If she got neither could she be eligible for a quota ad or a snap bid? I have never been clear about the difference. Thank you - I wish it were acceptable to have a glass of wine at work.....

This is putting the cart before the horse because it sounds like she still has a round or two to go yet so you may be worrying too much?

But if she has three pref invitations and she only lists 1 & 2 - because she really just CANNOT SEE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES that she could be happy or make friends with the 200 or so women in #3 - then she is not eligible for a quota addition.

She is in some cases eligible for a snap bid - but that is for chapters that did not make quota (and she just pissed off chapter #3) - so she is taking her chance that one of the other chapters that cut her earlier would both a) not make quota and b) decide they like her after all enough to get her a bid without having invited her to prefs? In other words it is unlikely that she could count on getting a bid from a chapter she liked.

She would not be eligible for COB until the following year.

ComradesTrue · #12 09-17-2015, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HQWest

She would not be eligible for COB until the following year.

Is this accurate? She would not have turned down a bid, so I think she is eligible.

HQWest · #13 09-17-2015, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ComradesTrue

Is this accurate? She would not have turned down a bid, so I think she is eligible.

She signed a bid card or MRSB after prefs - but only indicated 2 choices - so she is not eligible for COB until the following year

carnation · #14 09-17-2015, 05:39 PM

Check out the sorority recruitment forum--we have a ton of threads on the very subjects you want to know about.

DGTess · #15 09-17-2015, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HQWest

This is putting the cart before the horse because it sounds like she still has a round or two to go yet so you may be worrying too much?

But if she has three pref invitations and she only lists 1 & 2 - because she really just CANNOT SEE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES that she could be happy or make friends with the 200 or so women in #3 - then she is not eligible for a quota addition.

Is this a school with 200-woman chapters? Yes, a woman can usually find friends among 200. It may be quite different with 70-woman chapters.