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[carnation]

Dang. I wish John would close this thread.

I know how everything started...those of us who've been on the board since last summer were victims of the horrible autumn blitz by Becky'n'Barb in which they were so viciously angry that they flamed GCers' every post and when they would get thrown off GC, they'd come back with a new IP and username and more hate. Some of their sessions would start with seemingly innocent questions, some with purposely aggravating statements or questions, and others would start off being evil. They managed to get thrown off several boards and for those who haven't seen it, there's a direct link to GC entitled "Annoy GreekChat" on guess which site.

See, if you weren't here, it'd seem like us "oldtimers" were really nasty, short-tempered people and we're not. It's just that we had to endure months of those 2 trying to rip up this board and start fights because of their grudge against a relatively few people that none of us even knew. Now we tend to react to overly innocent or seemingly stupid posts snappishly because we expect the next posts to start into the familiar pattern of hate. It will be difficult for us to stop after so many months because the pattern got so old...you'd turn on your computer and there would be the filth ruining several good threads, usually posted in the middle of the night.

No one here means to be nasty. We've just become almost paranoid because GreekChat was almost trashed.

[Tom Earp]

Give it a break, there are many New People who join us so why cannot let them ask they maybe an A-- about it? Yes we have some dudas, as we know, I never mind someone asking something which is new to them. Hell I am a Senior member and I do not know it all DO YOU! Give it a rest AXO! You CAN GIVE ME GREIFE but give a little LOVE! LUV AND KISSES!!!!!!!!

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Tom Earp LX Z#1
Pittsburg State U. (Kansas)

[kappagirl00]

I disagree. I hope John DOES NOT close this thread. To do so would just say that we should ignore and not discuss the obvious general bad tone that has invaded this board. When people are rude, arrogant, and condescending, they deserve to be called out. Better to deal with the problem than ignore it.

Originally posted by kappagirl00:
I disagree. I hope John DOES NOT close this thread. To do so would just say that we should ignore and not discuss the obvious general bad tone that has invaded this board. When people are rude, arrogant, and condescending, they deserve to be called out. Better to deal with the problem than ignore it.

What's the point in dealing with it? You bitching about how rude and arrogant some of us are won't make us change a thing!

I already know that I am very opinionated and all too often obnoxious. I don't need you GCers to point it out. What good will it do to say "OTW, you're damn obnoxious and a plain old bish!"?

[finest_alum]

Originally posted by OohTeenyWahine:
Hey AXOAlum...

Was "setting a good example" in the job description for being a moderator?? I didn't think so.

OBVIOUSLY NOT! I'm sorry OTW/AXO Alum, but you are both rather rude to people on a regular basis. Last time I checked this was a PUBLIC FORUM - if you want a private discussion on "serious issues" create your own bulletin board and make it private.

If someone wants to come on here and ask what their sorority is like at another school, or what other people think of chapters, they have every right to. And I, along with everyone else, has a right to answer any way they darn well please.
Get over yourselves, PLEASE. If you are sick of answering posts, DON'T. It's all a little sad.

Originally posted by finest_alum:
It's all a little sad.

You don't see me crying about it.

[SweetestDiva]

Originally posted by finest_alum:
And I, along with everyone else, has a right to answer any way they darn well please.

Isn't this the very thing you're trashing OTW/AXO Alum for? Oh, the irony. Like OTW (and myself in an earlier post) already pointed out, YOU TELLING SOMEONE THEY ARE SARCASTIC/RUDE/ARROGANT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE THEIR PERSONALITY. I doubt anyone is going to change who they've been their whole lives because of something you posted on a message board. Seriously.

[SH80]

Originally posted by OohTeenyWahine:
#1--I don't think anyone needs a lesson in personal ethics.

Oh yes they do!!!!!!!!!

#2--Once again mccoyred, you are right.

[SH80]

OTW and AXO alum are you guys this evil in real life?

[SweetestDiva]

Originally posted by SH80:
OTW and AXO alum are you guys this evil in real life?

This is not a personal attack, I swear. But have ANY of you who have issue with OTW or AXO ever heard a joke or sarcastic remark in real life? You would swear using dry humor makes you the spawn of Satan.

[James]

Actually, the tenor of posts here can be more significant for Greeks and your organiations than you may realize.

I am my chapters founder in a way that most people are not, meaning I conceived an idea to start a Fraternity without a group of people to back me. I came up with the idea, recruited a team, and saw through the execution. It took me two seperate attempts with two different organizations to do it because of the way our campus administrators viewed Greeks.

As a result when people on campus have wanted to start a Fraternity/Sorority I have often been a resource for them.

2 years ago one or two girls came up to me because they wanted to start a Sorority on Campus.

So I shared my experience and knowledge with them and helped them pick out which group to affiliate with.

But what did I know about sororities (except that I would like to be in one)? At that time none of my friends were in one on different campuses.

However, I spent time on the old GreekSource way back when and was very impressed with the posts of our very own, Barbara, AKA PnguinTrax, and so I recomended ZTA to them, it wasn't on their list, but they put it there.

And I kept hinting what a great group it was, leadership orientated, fun, would give them resources, and had a dedicated group of alumnae. With a little persuasion from me, their good taste, and a little help I gave with greasing the administration, as well as luck of the draw, they chose ZTA and ZTA chose them.

And that same year received their charter into ZTA.

Why? Well beyond all their hard work it was because Barbara's love for the Greek system, and her Fraternity, showed so strongly through her website, and frequent intellegent posts on Greek source and Duncan's old site, that I was impressed enough with her and by extension ZTA to make that recomendation.

Such a seemingly small thing has led to a new ZTA chapter that is now the biggest on our campus, the only one at Total.

And if Barbara hadn't impressed me so much at that time and place, there is an extremely high probability that there would be a different Sorority here.

Take this as a lesson and do with it what you will.

Sorry Barbara, I meant to write to you before about it but the draft got filed. I did meet Deb Ensor the Executive Director and told her an abreviated version of the story. She knew precisely who you were. Here's a hi from her 1.5 years late


[This message has been edited by James (edited May 17, 2001).]

[newbie]

Wow, that's so sweet James, and that's a good lesson indeed .

[KSig RC]

Originally posted by James:
Actually, the tenor of posts here can be more significant for Greeks and your organiations than you may realize.

***Trimmed for the sake of sweet brevity***

Excellent point James, and excellent example of your point.

In all situations, I would suggest treating newcomers and the ensuing questions as you would someone in a formal rush environment. This way, you will be representing yourself and any organizations you may represent in a positive light, and will be helpful to others.

Also - let's lighten up a little bit in here - no reason to argue, regardless of who's right or wrong . . . anyone heard any good jokes? jeezus

[DGPhoney]

ok everyone, there seems to be a lot of negativity thrown back in forth in here. so this is what I have to say. In GC, everyone of us has a different personality ,different ideas of whats right and wrong, and definetly different concepts on greek life. Some of us are opinionated and some jump in here and there, well we can't change that and neither should we. Although there are many complaints about people being rude to new people who have questions, really theres nothing we can do about that either.If u want to answer the question then please do, and if u don't then please don't. I am sure although discouraged at times, the new people will be guided by those who love to answer questions no matter how many times it has been repeated. But thats kinda one of the purposes of gc to learn, help, chat, and whatever else falls under or in to GC, second someone pointed something out about the search not always working. thats very true sometimes the search works sometimes it really doesn't. so if u feel as though u can't help, or the question is annoying to you, then ignore it, and I am sure someone else will answer it(hopefully).
People should be able to post whatever question or comment they want, as long as it's not offensive and yada yada(ya'll know the deal on that) so if someone posts the same question for the 20th time let it slide, and if someone posts something in the news get over, it's conversation, without some of these posts we wouldn't have anything to talk about, and gc would be kinda dull. Lastly where's the luv ya'll
One and much love to ole and new{img}http://cwm.mysmilies.com/otn/love/sweety.gif[/img]

[pledgetrainer2]

I just wanted to say that chat boards belong to no one individual, they belong to everyone. Whether they posted one time or a hundred times. Someone can post a hundred stupid and rude posts or one really intelligent one. Time on the board means nothing. Rudeness does discourage rightful posters from coming to the board and expressing opinions. Rightful posters are anyone, greek, non-greek, general public, prospective members, and haters. It's interesting to hear all opinions. How do any of us grow without questioning? Sarcasim is not necessary by anyone because it is abusive. If Greeks want to look good, they wouldn't be on here chewing people out over ANYTHING but something criminal! Learn to disagree like mature adults, because when you go to college they consider you adults. If this wasn't a board that represented so many national organizations and their members, I could see where sarcasim would be ok. Just remember that you DO represent your own organization and MY organization everytime you write a comment about anything.