Lack of Ethnic Diversity in Bama's sororities worry future rushee - Page 5

KSUViolet06 · #61 01-16-2009, 02:45 PM

KSUVioletMom= DST

BabyViolet · #62 01-16-2009, 03:03 PM

One more thing.... I wasn't cut from any selection process etc. I just stopped attending the "stuff" and decided to go another route. First I was just looking around in the NPC option and then I ended up actually joining. People are trying to make it into something that it is not. Something like I didn't "deserve" one so I settled for another. It was nothing like that at all.

DrPhil · #63 01-16-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I

LOL! No, not this time!

I just think this is one of those situations where your sister isn't really articulating what she means the way she wants it conveyed, and there's no way for an NPHC member to really address it in a way that won't somehow belittle her.

In my opinion, not everyone is cut out for an NPHC kind of selection process and it's completely okay to be seeking something different in your sisterhood.

Or, to put it another way, you sorta have to buy into the NPHC selection process before you start looking around to see which one is the best fit. If you haven't bought into it, it won't work out favorably.

I was hoping she simply meant that there were NPHC sororities on her campus. Not that she had been courted by these sororities.

I feel about her comments the way I do about NPHCers who choose to explain why they chose their organization. Since NPHC doesn't have "recruitment," speak on why you chose your organization without mentioning the other organizations.

DrPhil · #64 01-16-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyViolet

One more thing.... I wasn't cut from any selection process etc. I just stopped attending the "stuff" and decided to go another route. First I was just looking around in the NPC option and then I ended up actually joining. People are trying to make it into something that it is not. Something like I didn't "deserve" one so I settled for another. It was nothing like that at all.

Well, you certainly should've discussed why you chose your NPC sorority without mentioning the NPHC sororities. The fact that you chose not to speaks volumes.

DrPhil · #65 01-16-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyViolet

like I said I had the choice of joining either type of sorority.

Because you were attending their "stuff?" Get outta here.

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I don't understand what's so offensive because people say all the time I can't imagine being in a NPC sorority.

Which means it doesn't register on their radar. It does not mean that it registered on their radar and they COULD'VE been a member but chose a nonNPC sorority.

We have had a NPC-NPHC retro recruitment story on here and it didn't take the tone of "they wanted me...I could've done it...but I rose above the pressures to conform and did my own thing."

Just take this as a valuable lesson.

srmom · #66 01-16-2009, 03:50 PM

I sense defensiveness on both sides, which is odd in an otherwise benign conversation.... Dr. Phil, you are supposed to be the professional - diagnose the situation!

Totally off topic - Libramunoz - You are from TEAGUE??? Wow! It's not often that you run across someone from Teague!! I've spent a bit of time there, it's a lovely little town. We have family friends there.

DrPhil · #67 01-16-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by srmom

Dr. Phil, you are supposed to be the professional - diagnose the situation!

I can tell you that you're using "defensiveness" too loosely.

srmom · #68 01-16-2009, 03:57 PM

Yeah, I was trying to not use the word "bitchiness"

DrPhil · #69 01-16-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by srmom

Yeah, I was trying to not use the word "bitchiness"

Save that word for a less "benign" conversation.

If you don't see the point we're making and why we're making it, it's okay for you to stay out of it. It happens to the best of us.

KSUViolet06 · #70 01-16-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

I feel about her comments the way I do about NPHCers who choose to explain why they chose their organization. Since NPHC doesn't have "recruitment," speak on why you chose your organization without mentioning the other organizations.

I was trying to put my finger on what it was about her comments that annoyed me, but I think this was it.

LucyAnne17 · #71 01-16-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by srmom

Yeah, I was trying to not use the word "bitchiness"

Snaps on being tactful.

Lets not worry about why she chose which sorority she chose. Its kind of getting to be ridiculous. I mean, there are like, six filipino girls in my NPC sorority and I've never once thought that they think they're too good to join the Asian Cultural org on campus. And I've never thought the NPHC girls think they're too good to be NPC. I just figured eveyone chose what they wanted to do, because they wanted to do it.
Silly me, I guess I was wrong.

DrPhil · #72 01-16-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LucyAnne17

Lets not worry about why she chose which sorority she chose.

We aren't.

sigtau305 · #73 01-16-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I

I don't know if this is the proper place to say so, but I think it's cool that the OP is an African American NPC legacy. I don't see that too much where I am.

That's very cool.

libramunoz · #74 01-16-2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by srmom

I sense defensiveness on both sides, which is odd in an otherwise benign conversation.... Dr. Phil, you are supposed to be the professional - diagnose the situation!

Totally off topic - Libramunoz - You are from TEAGUE??? Wow! It's not often that you run across someone from Teague!! I've spent a bit of time there, it's a lovely little town. We have family friends there.

Not orignially from Teague. It's a two horse town--literally--especially since the sidewalks are high enough for the horse and carriage! But I've lived here for about 21 years now. As they say in the South down here, whose your kinfolk?

libramunoz · #75 01-16-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I

LOL! No, not this time!

I just think this is one of those situations where your sister isn't really articulating what she means the way she wants it conveyed, and there's no way for an NPHC member to really address it in a way that won't somehow belittle her.

In my opinion, not everyone is cut out for an NPHC kind of selection process and it's completely okay to be seeking something different in your sisterhood.

Or, to put it another way, you sorta have to buy into the NPHC selection process before you start looking around to see which one is the best fit. If you haven't bought into it, it won't work out favorably.

Essentially I am saying that I am happy for her with her choice. However, since the Divine 9 isn't something that she knows about other than what she saw or the friends that she knew, it's very hard for her to be able to be specific about talking about one of these organizations if she doesn't know what they are about.
I think what she wanted to say was something else, and yes, Senni, you're correct, she didn't convey it very well. I know that she wanted to pass along her story, it just became convoluted in what she was specifically saying and in what she said, for me, it was offensive.
I know that you weren't trying to be offensive, but more is said in how you say than it can be in what you say. It's like if you and I were sitting down and having a convo, your body lang would say one thing to me and my body lang would say one thing to you. Sometimes it's easy to be saying "I like RTG" and actually be conveying "I hate you" in the same way.