Obama's Rhetoric is the Real Catastrophe

[PhiGam]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123457303244386495.html

In his remarks, every gloomy statistic on the economy becomes a harbinger of doom. As he tells it, today's economy is the worst since the Great Depression. Without his Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he says, the economy will fall back into that abyss and may never recover.

This fearmongering may be good politics, but it is bad history and bad economics. It is bad history because our current economic woes don't come close to those of the 1930s. At worst, a comparison to the 1981-82 recession might be appropriate. Consider the job losses that Mr. Obama always cites. In the last year, the U.S. economy shed 3.4 million jobs. That's a grim statistic for sure, but represents just 2.2% of the labor force. From November 1981 to October 1982, 2.4 million jobs were lost -- fewer in number than today, but the labor force was smaller. So 1981-82 job losses totaled 2.2% of the labor force, the same as now.

Pretty optimistic article regarding the economy... definitely made me think. It does seem as though people are making this seem like a much bigger deal than it is which decreases consumer confidence and eventually hurts the economy even worse then it should.

[DrPhil]

I don't watch or listen to his speeches. People gassed him up as some great orator and it has gotten way out of hand.

I wish they could make him do Powerpoint presentations with the main points and less rhetoric and dramatic speech.

Geesh.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I don't watch or listen to his speeches. People gassed him up as some great orator and it has gotten way out of hand.

I wish they could make him do Powerpoint presentations with the main points and less rhetoric and dramatic speech.

Geesh.

LOL It's funny when hateration rears its ugly head.

Just glancing at the article, I really hope they are not accusing Obama of fearmongering. Certainly not after this last administration...Not to mention that people all across the board have been saying the same thing they are accusing him of saying. Why try to single him out? Hypocritical much?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

LOL It's funny when hateration rears its ugly head.

Good job.

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Just glancing at the article, I really hope they are not accusing Obama of fearmongering. Certainly not after this last administration...Not to mention that people all across the board have been saying the same thing they are accusing him of saying. Why try to single him out? Hypocritical much?

There's enough fearmongering to go around. This is an article about politics (and the media) and the presentation of the current economic recession, as well the historical comparisons being made. Obama is the current POTUS who is making a lot of statements to the American public. So this article would be about him.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

There's enough fearmongering to go around. This is an article about politics (and the media) and the presentation of the current economic recession, as well the historical comparisons being made. Obama is the current POTUS who is making a lot of statements to the American public. So this article would be about him.

Were the same things being said and written before he became POTUS? Yes. Have other people made several statements to the American public concerning this economy? Yes. So this isn't unique to him.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Were the same things being said and written before he became POTUS? Yes. Have other people made several statements to the American public concerning this economy? Yes. So this isn't unique to him.

Good grief, some Obama supporters are way too sensitive.

People think the game has changed just because Obama is POTUS. Presidents are almost never the first and only one to say things. The same goes for many of the things Bush was blamed for. Being POTUS means that you have a powerful and unique platform. Presidents' words and actions are scrutinized much more because they have a much bigger impact. That's how it has always been so Obama doesn't get treated with kiddie gloves.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Were the same things being said and written before he became POTUS? Yes. Have other people made several statements to the American public concerning this economy? Yes. So this isn't unique to him.

Don't you think the scale is unique to him?

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I don't watch or listen to his speeches. People gassed him up as some great orator and it has gotten way out of hand.

I wish they could make him do Powerpoint presentations with the main points and less rhetoric and dramatic speech.

Geesh.

Ksigkid, this type of criticism comes off as hateration and sour grapes. If someone feels he isn't a great speaker, that's their opinion, but to express it in this way, to this extent...that speaks to something else.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Ksigkid, this type of criticism comes off as hateration and sour grapes. If someone feels he isn't a great speaker, that's their opinion, but to express it in this way, to this extent...that speaks to something else.

What "else" does it mean, past the stated point of "the speeches have too much rhetoric and I'd prefer the points distilled"?

[DrPhil]

I can't find a polite way to tell deepimpact to shut up.

ASTalumna did a pretty good job.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I can't find a polite way to tell deepimpact to shut up.

ASTalumna did a pretty good job.

Thank you.

Seriously, stop hateratin', people.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Thank you.

Seriously, stop hateratin', people.

WOW for someone who finds it "annoying" you sure were quick to use it...

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I can't find a polite way to tell deepimpact to shut up.

ASTalumna did a pretty good job.

What would be the point of telling me? It won't work. I have just as much right to post here as you.


And for the record, ASTalumna hasn't done a good job on anything besides wasting posts to dicuss how annoying it is to him/her when people use the word hateration. (As if someone is supposed to actually CARE that hateration is annoying to him/her)

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

And for the record, ASTalumna hasn't done a good job on anything besides wasting posts to dicuss how annoying it is to him/her when people use the word hateration. (As if someone is supposed to actually CARE that hateration is annoying to him/her)

Calm yourself. And before trying to insult me, you should read my username. Because if you did, and you knew what an ALUMNA was, you would realize that I'm a her.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Did he have to issue an executive order to get that site done?

Maybe to the technology task force.

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

What would be the point of telling me?

I have some better rhetoricals.