SC goes to Obama, Clinton loses black supporters...

[scbelle]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Not reading someone's book(s). Barack Obama has a quite a few books and voters shouldn't have to read any of them.

None of these candidates are really that interesting as people (Obama says it's not about him but about change...but a lot of this is really about him) that their books should be expected to be read by the masses.

"A vote for Obama is a vote for...his books?"

I'll give you books. I tried to read Hillary's autobiography and couldn't get past chapter 3. But definitely other resources.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by scbelle

I'll give you books. I tried to read Hillary's autobiography and couldn't get past chapter 3. But definitely other resources.

Imagine if you were blasted for not finishing her book and therefore being a lazy, unintellectual, and uninformed voter.

Definitely other resources.

[DSTCHAOS]

You book haters just aren't ready for BRAIN WARS. Chuck Norris is.

Chuck Norris was on Hannity and Colmes last night and he looked tired. BRAIN WARS are exhausting.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

You book haters just aren't ready for BRAIN WARS. Chuck Norris is.

Chuck Norris was on Hannity and Colmes last night and he looked tired. BRAIN WARS are exhausting.

wait chuck does more than martial arts?

**gasp.**

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

wait chuck does more than martial arts?

**gasp.**

I wish your computer would explode.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I wish your computer would explode.

you almost had your wish a month ago....hehehehe...

but...why do we really need all of these celebs muddying the political waters when it's already hard enough for people to figure out the people they are trying to vote for....some of these characters need to stay on the infomercials that they are doing and get in the political arena only if they are running...otherwise...I am simply looking at these B and D list celebs and wondering how much are they getting paid to endorse these politicans whether they believe their views or no.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

you almost had your wish a month ago....hehehehe...

but...why do we really need all of these celebs muddying the political waters when it's already hard enough for people to figure out the people they are trying to vote for....some of these characters need to stay on the infomercials that they are doing and get in the political arena only if they are running...otherwise...I am simply looking at these B and D list celebs and wondering how much are they getting paid to endorse these politicans whether they believe their views or no.

Celeb and politician endorsements are just to confuse people even more and sway the easily influenced. Some of the Kennedies like Obama...welp...I guess I need to start giving a damn about Obama now. No.

But Chuck Norris is not meant to confuse or sway. He already owns our thoughts and actions.

[skylark]

Okay... so how many people are going to look at that long-ass post I just put up there and think "why bother" but then still assume that "skylark thinks Barack is perfect" or "skylark said she wanted everyone to read political books" without bothering to read the detailed post to find out?

Many, if not most, right?

Does anyone else see the analogy?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by skylark

Okay... so how many people are going to look at that long-ass post I just put up there and think "why bother" but then still assume that "skylark thinks Barack is perfect" or "skylark said she wanted everyone to read political books" without bothering to read the detailed post to find out?

Many, if not most, right?

Does anyone else see the analogy?

Okay this a horrible attempt at pretending you typed that long ass post to make an analogy. I certainly didn't read it because I have no REASON to assume it's anything more than wordier(?) redundancy.

If I typed "asdfjk;lasfdjlk;jljkl;fjlk;dsj;lsdfjsd;" for 10 pages but included the key to eternal life in the middle paragraph on the 10th page, can I blame anyone for not giving a damn enough to read until the 10th page?

If it is truly the key to eternal life, why preface it with a bunch of unnecessary hurdles and gatekeeping? Do YOU see the analogy?

[skylark]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Okay this a horrible attempt at pretending you typed that long ass post to make an analogy. I certainly didn't read it because I have no REASON to assume it's anything more than wordier(?) redundancy.

Actually, I didn't type the post thinking that it would be an analogy. I realized the irony afterwards and thought I'd be the first to make light of it and give some people in this thread a reason to laugh.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by skylark

Actually, I didn't type the post thinking that it would be an analogy. I realized the irony afterwards and thought I'd be the first to make light of it and give some people in this thread a reason to laugh.

My point, exactly.

The same after-the-fact reasoning applies to people pretending that a candidate's book should be read.

[skylark]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

My point, exactly.

The same after-the-fact reasoning applies to people pretending that a candidate's book should be read.

But I don't think that I said that someone had to read an entire book. I believe I pointed out this wonderfully useful thing called an index. I don't think that looking something up in a book is an "unnecessary hurdle" to someone who wants something really specific as to a candidates position on something. Just look up "abortion" "gay marriage" "educational system" or "strict constructionist" and go wild.

I'm not "pretending" that a candidate's book should be read by everyone who wants to vote. I only said that if you want to know what specifically a candidate would like to see done on a certain issue and the candidate wrote a book on politics in america about a year or so ago, instead of assuming and representing to others that the candidate doesn't have a plan, why not find out first by looking it up.

[alum]

This includes Florida results:

For the Republicans:
Magic Number 1,191

McCain 97
Romney 74
Huckabee 29
Paul 6
Giuliani 2
x-Hunter 0
x-Thompson 0

For the Democrats:
Magic Number 2,025

Clinton 232
Obama 158
Edwards 62
x-Biden 0
x-Dodd 0
Gravel 0
x-Kucinich 0
x-Richardson 0

[DaemonSeid]

ORLANDO, Fla. - In the end, 9/11 wasn't enough.


Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, once the Republican presidential front-runner thanks to his status as "America's Mayor," suffered a debilitating defeat in Tuesday's Florida primary. He prepared Wednesday to quit the race and endorse his friendliest rival, John McCain.

Giuliani stopped short of announcing he was stepping down, but delivered a valedictory speech that was more farewell than fight-on.

The former mayor finished a distant third to the winner, McCain, and close second-place finisher Mitt Romney. Republican officials said Giuliani would endorse McCain on Wednesday in California. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity in advance of the public announcement.

"I'm proud that we chose to stay positive and to run a campaign of ideas in an era of personal attacks, negative ads and cynical spin," Giuliani said as supporters with tight smiles crowded behind him. "You don't always win, but you can always try to do it right, and you did."

Asked directly whether he was dropping out of the race, Giuliani said only: "I'm going to California."

Republican presidential candidates were scheduled to debate at the Reagan presidential library in Simi Valley on Wednesday night.

Tuesday's result was a remarkable collapse for Giuliani. Last year, he occupied the top of national polls and seemed destined to turn conventional wisdom on end by running as a moderate Republican who supported abortion rights, gay rights and gun control.

The results seriously decimated Giuliani's unconventional strategy, which relied heavily on Florida to launch him into the coast-to-coast Feb. 5 nominating contests.

But Florida proved to be less than hospitable. His poll numbers dropped and key endorsements went to McCain.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080130/...el_pr/giuliani