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03-07-2006, 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by aggieAXO
It is sad that a breed is being punished mostly due to irresponsible owners. I see pits on a daily basis and trust them more on exam than I trust a corgie, chihuahua, damnation (ie dalmation), chow, shar pei, spitz, shibu inu (these are the breeds that we muzzle most often). However, these breeds (at least most) do not have the capabilities to kill me (unless I get rabies or a flesh eating bacteria). I do not trust most pits around other animals especially small dogs and cats unless they were raised with them. Most of the problems I see are due to bad owners that put them out in the yard on a chain, they give them no chance to properly socialize. and offer no training So, we are banning a breed in order to punish these irresponsible o's but unfortunately the good o's are the ones that suffer as the bad ones don't give a $hit. Many of the DRs I work with have pits and they are well behaved, get along with kids and other animals so they are not necessarily inherently bad.
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These breeds are not natural. What are we killing here? Someone decided to make a breed that was better at killing. Mutts live longer and don't have as many health problems because they were not bred for special features - ie killing better.
Dog fighters don't throw tiny poodles into fights do they?
I am not saying to kill all pitbulls but there really is no need to allow the breeding to continue if you aren't looking to use them to fight.
-Rudey
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03-07-2006, 01:02 PM
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No purebred breed is natural. And very few dog breeds are used for their original intent. Someone else referenced the bull dog. I have a cocker spaniel. Cocker spaniels were bred to be hunting dogs. I don't hunt. Neither does my dog.
And again, there have been many dogs classified as "pit bulls" that are not genetically pit bulls. This has skewed the reports of pit bull attacks. Another poster pointed out the reputation of these dogs has been affected by bad owners, newspaper stories and urban legend.
I don't deny that Pit bulls are capable of doing harm. So can any other dog. It is a combination of breeding, temperment and the dog's handler that contributes to the animal's destructive traits and good qualities.
It also goes without saying that no child should ever be left unsupervised with any animal, whether pit bull or golden retriever. And yes, people do come before dogs.
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03-08-2006, 10:30 PM
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For those of you interested in learning the TRUE nature of pit bulls please check out:
www.pbrc.net
www.badrap.org
www.pitbullproblem.tk
I have two Pit mixes, one permenant resident that I have since she was 5 weeks old and one foster pup who will more than likely become a permenant resident.
BSL sucks. I would not hesitate to let my pits, nor any other pits raised in a stable environment around children. The majority of news stories on PIts are ones that have been chained in backyards and not properly socialized.
My Pit Laney LOVES kids she lives for the days I bring over the kids I babyI babysit for. She plays hde and seek with them under the table. She even loves babies. When i have kids (eventually) I would never worry about her being around my babies.
Here are some pics of my sweet Pittie girls!
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03-08-2006, 10:57 PM
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Originally posted by adpiucf
No purebred breed is natural. And very few dog breeds are used for their original intent. Someone else referenced the bull dog. I have a cocker spaniel. Cocker spaniels were bred to be hunting dogs. I don't hunt. Neither does my dog.
And again, there have been many dogs classified as "pit bulls" that are not genetically pit bulls. This has skewed the reports of pit bull attacks. Another poster pointed out the reputation of these dogs has been affected by bad owners, newspaper stories and urban legend.
I don't deny that Pit bulls are capable of doing harm. So can any other dog. It is a combination of breeding, temperment and the dog's handler that contributes to the animal's destructive traits and good qualities.
It also goes without saying that no child should ever be left unsupervised with any animal, whether pit bull or golden retriever. And yes, people do come before dogs.
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Cocker spaniels were bred as gun dogs to flush out woodcock birds according to http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/americancocker.htm
They were never bred to kill a large animal in a viscious manner.
And if we can create a breed, we can stop creating that breed. There is no reason to keep it going since it's not natural and it can be dangerous.
Most people would gladly fight a cocker spaniel over a pit bull any day of the week.
-Rudey
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03-08-2006, 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by Rudey
Most people would gladly fight a cocker spaniel over a pit bull any day of the week.
-Rudey
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One time this girl asked me what I would do if a pitbull (or any other dog with a vicious repuation) cornered me with the intent of mauling me.
I told her I would kick, scream, try and gauge it's fucking eyeball out. Bite back. Choke it out.
She looked at me as if I were crazy.
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03-08-2006, 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
One time this girl asked me what I would do if a pitbull (or any other dog with a vicious repuation) cornered me with the intent of mauling me.
I told her I would kick, scream, try and gauge it's fucking eyeball out. Bite back. Choke it out.
She looked at me as if I were crazy.
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Hey Bobby, how far away are you from LA?
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03-08-2006, 11:10 PM
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Hey Bobby, how far away are you from LA?
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I'm in huntington beach bro. about 45 minutes away.
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03-09-2006, 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by CUGreekgirl
My Pit Laney LOVES kids she lives for the days I bring over the kids I babyI babysit for. She plays hde and seek with them under the table. She even loves babies. When i have kids (eventually) I would never worry about her being around my babies.
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That's great that you have a sweet dog, but still dogs are dirty and have germs no matter how clean you keep them. I don't want my dog licking or scratching on or around my baby.
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03-09-2006, 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by uksparkle
That's great that you have a sweet dog, but still dogs are dirty and have germs no matter how clean you keep them. I don't want my dog licking or scratching on or around my baby.
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No My Dear, They are cleaner than Humans!
When was the last time You cleaned Your Body? Well, they do the same thing.
When have You knawed for such little critters such as Crabs that bother You?
Why do You think Elephants roll in the mud or throw dirt on themselves? They use that to protect them selfs from little critters that try to get them through the skin. What do You use? Oh, scents, Aloe Creams and other offensive odors to animals and maybe some humans.
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03-09-2006, 09:31 PM
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Well whatever, our dog doesn't roll around on our baby. Nothing more to say really.
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03-09-2006, 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by uksparkle
Well whatever, our dog doesn't roll around on our baby. Nothing more to say really.
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03-09-2006, 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by uksparkle
That's great that you have a sweet dog, but still dogs are dirty and have germs no matter how clean you keep them. I don't want my dog licking or scratching on or around my baby.
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I catch way more things from the humans I work with than from the animals I treat . I would rather be around a cat or a dog than a baby. The Drs that have children bring their kid's illnesses to work and then the rest of the clinic ends up getting sick.
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03-10-2006, 01:06 AM
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Originally posted by Rudey
Most people would gladly fight a cocker spaniel over a pit bull any day of the week.
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Funny I should see this now because about an hour ago I was talking to my sister and she told me how she got called down to the emergency department last night to operate on a woman who had half of her lip bitten off by her pet cocker spaniel. It was so grisly-looking, my sister said her first thought was "H--y S--t; someone call a doctor!" and then "Oh f--k, that's me!" (yes, we're potty mouths in my family)
Cocker spaniels; who knew???
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03-10-2006, 01:19 AM
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Originally posted by aggieAXO
I catch way more things from the humans I work with than from the animals I treat . I would rather be around a cat or a dog than a baby. The Drs that have children bring their kid's illnesses to work and then the rest of the clinic ends up getting sick.
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Yeah. Uhhhh. And I'm sure you don't catch STDs from dogs either right? Unless you are into beastiality
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03-10-2006, 01:44 AM
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Originally posted by KillarneyRose
Cocker spaniels; who knew???
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I was attacked by a cocker spaniel two summers ago. It took a nice chunk out of my right leg. They're nasty dogs, and I know about three people who've gotten rid of them because they're so mean. That's probably sterotyping them, but the people who had the dogs raised them correctly.
I really don't support breed bans,but I throughly support leash laws.
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