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12-28-2005, 01:47 PM
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I don't know anyone that celebrates Kwanzaa (blacks even) and I have never even heard any references in pop-culture (tv, books, papers, etc.) to non-black people celebrating it.
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So, does that make you the authority? You haven't experienced those things and others have. Whoop de doo.
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12-28-2005, 01:52 PM
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So, does that make you the authority? You haven't experienced those things and others have. Whoop de doo.
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No I didn't say it did.
Evidently this post makes you the authority on ASSumptions.
Does it make you the authority on Kwanzaa though? Oh wait, you don't celebrate Kwanzaa, so probably not.
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12-28-2005, 01:53 PM
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Why do black people have to have a seperate holiday? I mean, I'm not trying to be racist, but I thought that the key to ending racism was realizing we're all just people. Making up a holiday that you can celebrate just because your skin is a certain color seems kind of defeatist and like it would perpetuate racism even more.
I'm sure I'll get called a racist for that statement, but I'm not. Sorry if it offends anyone.
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Shutup.
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12-28-2005, 01:53 PM
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No I didn't say it did.
Evidently this post makes you the authority on ASSumptions.
Does it make you the authority on Kwanzaa though? Oh wait, you don't celebrate Kwanzaa, so probably not.
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LOL. Who said I was the authority? LOL. But you don't have to celebrate something to be an authority? 
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12-28-2005, 01:54 PM
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Listen, "Racism" or a derivation or a reference to it came up 3 times before I first posted. A lot of times people use the word "bigot" as a synonym for "Racist." This not only damages the history of victims of racism but also makes it difficult to deal with in the future. Am I wrong in that? That's all I'm saying.
I don't know anyone that celebrates Kwanzaa (blacks even) and I have never even heard any references in pop-culture (tv, books, papers, etc.) to non-black people celebrating it.
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Racism is a instutionalized system. Bigotry is basically not liking a person because of their race/religion/gender, etc....
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This not only damages the history of victims of racism but also makes it difficult to deal with in the future.
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What makes it difficult is that people won't deal with it. They're quick to defend insensitive remarks.
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I don't know anyone that celebrates Kwanzaa (blacks even) and I have never even heard any references in pop-culture (tv, books, papers, etc.) to non-black people celebrating it.
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Come on Rudey, seriously. If you don't know, just say so.
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12-28-2005, 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by omegamcgee
Why do black people have to have a seperate holiday? I mean, I'm not trying to be racist, but I thought that the key to ending racism was realizing we're all just people. Making up a holiday that you can celebrate just because your skin is a certain color seems kind of defeatist and like it would perpetuate racism even more.
I'm sure I'll get called a racist for that statement, but I'm not. Sorry if it offends anyone.
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And what are you adding to this thread? NOTHING. K.I.M.
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12-28-2005, 01:55 PM
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LOL. Who said I was the authority? LOL. But you don't have to celebrate something to be an authority?
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"LOL. Who said I was the authority? LOL. But you don't have to celebrate something to be an authority? "
I could just as easily say that to you in response to your previous post to me, stud.
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12-28-2005, 01:56 PM
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I am baffled as to why anyone who is not Black American and who does not celebrate Kwanzaa thinks anybody in the world gives a rat's ass what he or she thinks of Kwanzaa. Why did dude even write the article?
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12-28-2005, 01:56 PM
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No I didn't say it did.
Evidently this post makes you the authority on ASSumptions.
Does it make you the authority on Kwanzaa though? Oh wait, you don't celebrate Kwanzaa, so probably not.
-Rudey
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wow
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I don't know anyone that celebrates Kwanzaa (blacks even) and I have never even heard any references in pop-culture (tv, books, papers, etc.) to non-black people celebrating it.
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*sigh*
So how can u have an opinion on this?
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12-28-2005, 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by Shortfuse
Racism is a instutionalized system. Bigotry is basically not liking a person because of their race/religion/gender, etc....
What makes it difficult is that people won't deal with it. They're quick to defend insensitive remarks.
Come on Rudey, seriously. If you don't know, just say so.
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Insensitive is subjective but different from racist and bigoted.
If I don't know black people that celebraete Kwanzaa just say so? I did. What are you trying to say?
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12-28-2005, 01:58 PM
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wow
*sigh*
So how can u have an opinion on this?
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What am I having an opinion on and what is the opinion?
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12-28-2005, 01:59 PM
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"LOL. Who said I was the authority? LOL. But you don't have to celebrate something to be an authority? "
I could just as easily say that to you in response to your previous post to me, stud.
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Shortfuse has already responded with what I would have said.
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12-28-2005, 01:59 PM
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Ok people....
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Originally posted by omegamcgee
Why do black people have to have a seperate holiday? I mean, I'm not trying to be racist, but I thought that the key to ending racism was realizing we're all just people. Making up a holiday that you can celebrate just because your skin is a certain color seems kind of defeatist and like it would perpetuate racism even more.
I'm sure I'll get called a racist for that statement, but I'm not. Sorry if it offends anyone.
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1. it's clear you don't understand the word racism...
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I'm not trying to be racist....
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saying you're not trying to be racist is kinda well, not good. Makes it sound like you're about to defend a "racist" statement and want to cover it up.
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12-28-2005, 02:00 PM
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Shortfuse has already responded with what I would have said.
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So you're unable to formulate a response that makese sense? OK stud.
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12-28-2005, 02:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by omegamcgee
Why do black people have to have a seperate holiday? I mean, I'm not trying to be racist, but I thought that the key to ending racism was realizing we're all just people. Making up a holiday that you can celebrate just because your skin is a certain color seems kind of defeatist and like it would perpetuate racism even more.
I'm sure I'll get called a racist for that statement, but I'm not. Sorry if it offends anyone.
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I don't think it is a racist statement, it is valid question from your angle of vision.
First of all, ANYONE can participate in the activities surrounding Kwanzaa (Just like hannakuh(sp)).
Secondly, The same question is asked regarding any Cultural Specific Holiday, it is a celebration using a Cultural infuence that is not generally in the mainstream. As little Culture is mainstreamed now (Please don't equate current Hip Hop with Black Culture), There was nothing for Blacks to relate to in 1966.
Now again, I don't "celebrate" Kwanzaa as I feel living the principles daily is more effective. One of the problems of a Country with the roots we have (where mainstream and Culture does not always equate with Equality and Diversity), It is a natural progression to create events and situations where your culture is emphasized.
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