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Originally posted by ktsnake
Hoosier, your argument just does not stack up. Let me try and repeat what I'm understanding you to say:
Left-wing Americans and Nazis are similar to Communists.
If that is what you're saying, please offer some evidence to support it. Which positions do they all agree on where you can say that they are not only similar, but the same.
Redistribution of the wealth does not equate to 'From each according to their ability to each according to their need'. They're different things.
Read your own signature, that's some good advice.
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I try to stack things up real good, but sometimes I fail.
Left wing Americans, Nazis, commies, etc. all want:
the public sector to provide
1 - health care
2 - education
3 - utilities
4 - mass transit
and sometimes also
5 - banking
6 - mining
7 - fuel extraction
It's common in Mexico, Argentina, and other oil-rich countries for the govt. to own/control the oil business, banking, etc. In the USA, the govt. already controls education, health care, and transit, and tightly supervises health care, utilities, banking, fuel extraction, and mining. Dems and libs want even more control.
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You said: Redistribution of the wealth does not equate to 'From each according to their ability to each according to their need'. They're different things.
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Actually, they're exactly the same thing. Dems/socialists/lefties favor the graduated income tax - high rates for high income people and businesses. Financially conservative people favor low taxes, levied and administered locally (not by the federal govt.), and know that businesses NEVER actually PAY taxes, they just collect it (as a hidden tax) from customers.
My signature: I try to make it valuable.
Thanks for your interesting questions/comments.
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And here's some points copied from the evil Wiki:
Communism refers to a theoretical system of social organization and a political movement based on common ownership of the means of production . As a political movement, communism seeks to establish a classless society. A major force in world politics since the early 20th century , modern communism is generally associated with The Communist Manifesto of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels , according to which the capitalist profit-based system of private ownership is replaced by a communist society in which the means of production are communally owned
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the de facto meaning of socialism has changed with time. Although it is a politically- loaded term, it remains strongly-related to the establishment of an organized working class ; created through either revolution or by social evolution , with the purpose of building a classless society .
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In Marxist theory, it also refers to the society that would succeed or supplant capitalism , and would later develop further into communism , as the necessity for the socialist structure would wither away.
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Democratic socialists maintain a commitment to the re-distribution of wealth and power and social ownership of most major industry, and some believe in a planned economy
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Democratic socialists have normally defended the role of the public sector , particularly as regards the provision of key services such as health care, education, utilities, mass transit, and sometimes also banking, mining, and fuel extraction.
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