Ongoing Chico State Pledge Death Situation... - Page 4

DeltAlum · #46 03-08-2005, 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by Tom Earp
Is that LAX or LXA?

Yeah. One is a fraternity and the other is an airport. Or did I get that backwards?

TxAPhi · #47 03-08-2005, 09:34 PM

I believe in this case she was refering to Lacrosse?

DeltAlum · #48 03-08-2005, 09:37 PM

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Originally posted by TxAPhi
I believe in this case she was refering to Lacrosse?

I know, but I still like the airport line.

TxAPhi · #49 03-08-2005, 09:41 PM

Well that went right over my head then! And you, or maybe just Tom, had me convinced that you were confusing LAX with LXA

Edited b/c I couldn't sleep at all last night b/c of a sinus infection and so I am no longer sure if my typing or thinking is coherent...

DeltAlum · #50 03-09-2005, 01:01 AM

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Originally posted by TxAPhi
Well that went right over my head then!

Don't feel bad, I'm sure it went over a lot of other heads, too. Obviously, I've spent way too much of my life in airports.

For those who don't know, LAX=Los Angeles International Airport in FAA shorthand.

roqueemae · #51 03-09-2005, 12:15 PM

She was talking about the lacrosse team then? I have never heard of it referred to in that way. But then again I have never been to a school with a lacrosse team.

a CA in CA · #52 03-10-2005, 05:49 PM

Yeah, she meant the lacrosse team. I went to LaCrosse (as in UW) and we'd say LAX when we meant lacrosse and sometimes even LaCrosse even though LaCrosse is technically LSE and not LAX. Oh, and there's no LXA at LaCrosse!

Betcha never thought you'd see that many lacrosses in one post!

AlphaPhiBubbles · #53 03-11-2005, 07:11 AM

I definately meant the LACROSSE team. LXA at my campus is a whole 'nother story....I don't feel like I know enough of the history to repeat it here, but I believe that the group was de-recognized (is that the term??) from this campus not too long ago (like 3, 4, 5 years ago????) for an uknown reason (at least by me). I believe the surviving local fraternal group is called Lambda Pi, who hasn't caused any problems that I know about. They are a pretty small group with low visibility within the greek system, but if they are a good group of guys I hope they grow and are able to obtain national and campus (and IFC?) recognition some day.

epi_girl · #54 03-11-2005, 01:51 PM

I heard there was some gathering of the greek orgs recently on campus to discuss next steps for greek life on this campus. I think it was at a national level. anyone know if this is true?

AlphaPhiBubbles · #55 03-13-2005, 01:28 AM

yes we had a meeting with the president of the university, as well as our greek advisor. The entire national greek system came along with some of their advisors and national reps, and I believe many local/multicultural were invited but few came. There has already been discussion on this within this thread...basically all that happened was president Zingg made a speech telling us basically how mad/disappointed he was and that the entire greek system will be under review this semester. There was a *slight* underlying threat that all fraternities and sororities will be shut down, but I honestly don't think that will happen. The other part of that meeting was spent watching a video about the water hazing death that occured at SUNY Plattsburgh a few years ago.

norcalKAO · #56 03-15-2005, 03:25 PM

So I guess I have a theory, if president Zingg is threatening to shut down the Greek system at Chico State, while making public his plans to re-build the campus, plans of which build over some of the Greek houses located closes to campus, I don't know maybe he's using recent incident as an excuse to be able to remove you from your homes without conflict.

Don't get me wrong I'm about as aware of Chico State's history as the next person, but it seems unlikely that a threat like that would ever be taken seriously unless there was some hidden agenda, I don’t know it just sounds somewhat convenient for him.

Nichole

AlphaPhiBubbles · #57 03-20-2005, 12:30 AM

I didn't know about his plans to expand the campus, but I find it REALLY unlikely he would be able to get rid of any of the greek houses. There are only a few close enough to campus for this to make sense in the first place, one being mine (its actually the closest) and we rent our house from the monopoly realtor in town, and so Zingg would need a crapload of money to buy this or any of the houses on this block....plus they are all historically recognized so I doubt he'd be able to tear them down. Next closest would be ADPi and im pretty sure their house is either owned by the same people or their alumni corp...and then after that is Sigma Kappa, and they own the house.

I understand why you would think that, but I honestly don't think that is his motive. I honestly dont think the greek system will get shut down anytime soon either...a lot of houses are at capacity and the sororities are in pretty good shape - why should we suffer because of the guys?? We'll see....but I won't be here anymore if it does shut down.

33girl · #58 03-20-2005, 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by AlphaPhiBubbles
I honestly dont think the greek system will get shut down anytime soon either...a lot of houses are at capacity and the sororities are in pretty good shape - why should we suffer because of the guys??

This is an attitude that I've heard many sorority members and national officers voice - i.e. the girls are fine, step away and let the guys croak. It doesn't work.

The fact that women have relied on the men's groups for years to provide social spaces and opportunities cuts both ways. We've used them so we didn't have to be grownups or liberated women and take liability, now we want to put all the blame on them? I'm sorry, but this kind of crap is why the male/female divide in this country is not closing, is in fact getting larger in the younger generations.

TSteven · #59 03-21-2005, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by 33girl
This is an attitude that I've heard many sorority members and national officers voice - i.e. the girls are fine, step away and let the guys croak. It doesn't work.

The fact that women have relied on the men's groups for years to provide social spaces and opportunities cuts both ways. We've used them so we didn't have to be grownups or liberated women and take liability, now we want to put all the blame on them? I'm sorry, but this kind of crap is why the male/female divide in this country is not closing, is in fact getting larger in the younger generations.

33girl - Thank you for saying this.

To share some of the responsibility, some fraternities and/or IFC's are 'pushing back' (for lack of a better phrase) and requiring that only sororities willing to be a co-sponsor for a party/mixer/exchange may be invited *onto* house property for said event.

In other words, while mixers may be held at the fraternity house (because they can have alcohol etc.) only those sororities that sign on as a co-host, and accept joint responsibility, will be (can be?) invited. All this within the guidelines of campus rules and the fraternity's HQ of course.

Note: I would imagine these chapters can still have the random 'house party' where there is a guest list with third party vendors etc.

DeltAlum · #60 03-21-2005, 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by 33girl
The fact that women have relied on the men's groups for years to provide social spaces and opportunities cuts both ways. We've used them so we didn't have to be grownups or liberated women and take liability, now we want to put all the blame on them?

This is important. As 33Girl knows, but many don't, a fairly significant percentage of fraternity insurance claims result from damage caused by sorority women who are guests for parties or whatever in fraternity houses.