Etiquette! - Page 4

AOPIHottie · #46 01-02-2005, 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by RedRoseSAI
Whaaa....? Why did you get yelled at for that?

Because they think I am being rude/sarcastic. Older (50-ish) men will say "don't call me sir!" One of my other bartenders also calls everyone sir/maam, and when yelled at she always replied with "Excuse me, but I was raised right!"

Tom Earp · #47 01-02-2005, 07:58 PM

REALLY, You take Your self to seriousally, dont you or Knot?

Re- Dickilous, is upon the Eye Ball Of the beholder isnt it?
Oh Ye of little faith, get your Law Shingle and become a member of the snakes or ACLU!

When you get it from your third world Law school as you flipitnsley call it, then go to the ACLU!

Stay in college while you can, the real world is a Biotch.

The Drudge of putting up with the Drecks of Lif3e Who You have to be nice to as they do spend their .60 cents buying thier dope cigars.

God, are you going to really get an eye full if if you are in Real world if you are getting into Prosecution which I doubt.

Does corp. pr anyother Law sound good?

Good Luck, Stay as long as You can, The Real World is A Biotch

aephi alum · #48 01-03-2005, 12:47 AM

I've just skimmed this thread, so I may repeat a few things...

One of my pet peeves is parents who let their kids run wild and just do whatever they want. It's called discipline. Kids want to run around and have fun, but there's a time and a place for that, and it's not when you're in a nice restaurant or in the corridors of a hotel when it's 11pm and people are trying to sleep - and parents should enforce that, or not place their children in the situation in the first place - not sit around and get drunk while their kids run crazy.

Performances... please please PLEASE turn off your cell phone. Don't applaud between movements; if you're not sure if it's the "right" time to applaud, refer to your program or listen to see if others applaud. And PLEASE dress appropriately for an opera, ballet, Broadway show, or classical concert. Jeans and t-shirts and sneakers and unkempt hair is not appropriate.

I second the people who have said to give up your seat on the subway/train/bus/restaurant waiting area/doctor's waiting room if (a) you are a child and an adult is looking for a seat, or (b) you are an able-bodied young adult and someone who is elderly, pregnant, etc is looking for a seat.

honeychile · #49 01-03-2005, 01:43 AM

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Originally posted by AOPIHottie
Because they think I am being rude/sarcastic. Older (50-ish) men will say "don't call me sir!" One of my other bartenders also calls everyone sir/maam, and when yelled at she always replied with "Excuse me, but I was raised right!"

GREAT comeback!!

IMHO, one of the reasons a lot of children are running amok is because adults are too busy trying to be their friends and not their elders. Children should not be calling adults by their first names, unless it's Mr. Josh or Ms. Pam - and adults should quit being so frightened of sounding old that they put up with poor behavior!

sairose · #50 01-03-2005, 01:58 AM

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Originally posted by CUGreekgirl
I'm from way down deep south Georgia. I can't help but say m'am. I even say it to people my own age. I used to get smacked if I didn't use my manners as a kid.

Same way in Arkansas.

Seriously, in the South, you use ma'am/sir out of respect/courtesy. I never realized it was seen as rude elsewhere...interesting!

Taualumna · #51 01-03-2005, 05:42 PM

When should a woman become a "Ms"? I have Charlotte Ford's 21st Century Etiquette, and she says that "older" unmarried women are never to be "Miss". What is "older"? Personally, I use "Ms." for all professional correspondence, and Miss for young girls and unmarried women who are my age or want to be addressed as "Miss" (my high school addresses all my alumnae mail to Miss Cynthia LASTNAME '98). Many older unmarried women, especially those who were brought up before the 1960s prefer "Miss" over "Ms" .

aephi alum · #52 01-03-2005, 06:58 PM

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Originally posted by Taualumna
When should a woman become a "Ms"? I have Charlotte Ford's 21st Century Etiquette, and she says that "older" unmarried women are never to be "Miss". What is "older"?

I think a woman should become a "Ms." whenever she decides that's how she'd prefer to be addressed. I'm still a "Ms." and I'm married... my marital status is none of my professional contacts' business.

My feeling on this matter is that, if you know how someone prefers to be addressed, you respect that (within reason - if someone says "Call me Dr." and they're not a doctor, that's just silly). Otherwise you have a default... I'm sure there are some etiquette rules about this, but my default is that a man is "Mr." and a woman is "Ms." unless they request otherwise.

valkyrie · #53 01-03-2005, 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by aephi alum
I think a woman should become a "Ms." whenever she decides that's how she'd prefer to be addressed. I'm still a "Ms." and I'm married... my marital status is none of my professional contacts' business.

I agree. It's easy enough to ask someone how she prefers to be addressed. Whether I'm married or not, I'll always be Ms. and I'd be offended if someone called me Miss or Mrs. However, I'm always very careful to call a woman Mrs. Husband's First Husband's Last if that's what she prefers.

33girl · #54 01-03-2005, 09:45 PM

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Originally posted by Taualumna
When should a woman become a "Ms"? I have Charlotte Ford's 21st Century Etiquette, and she says that "older" unmarried women are never to be "Miss". What is "older"? Personally, I use "Ms." for all professional correspondence, and Miss for young girls and unmarried women who are my age or want to be addressed as "Miss" (my high school addresses all my alumnae mail to Miss Cynthia LASTNAME '98). Many older unmarried women, especially those who were brought up before the 1960s prefer "Miss" over "Ms" .

Charlotte Ford's full of poo. I have no problem with Miss. But like valkyrie said - she dislikes it intensely. To me, it would seem easier to use Ms - especially on written correspondence since it's shorter. At any rate, I believe people who are married are less offended by being called "Miss" or "Ms" than unmarried people are by being called "Mrs." Assuming someone is married is hurtful if they're not - it's like buying something and the clerk saying "oh, is that for your mom?" when your mom's been dead for years.

I know I sound like I'm being supersensitive, but until my mom died I never realized how much people assume things and say things that can really upset others.

AOIIsilver · #55 01-03-2005, 09:54 PM

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When should a woman become a "Ms"? I have Charlotte Ford's 21st Century Etiquette, and she says that "older" unmarried women are never to be "Miss". What is "older"?

Here, the use of "Miss Mary" does NOT have anything to do with the marital status of the older woman. At least in my area, the most revered women are "Miss INSERT FIRST NAME" whether they are married or not. This status is especially reserved for older women with power and grace to whom you do not have a family connection (i.e. Aunt, etc.)
Silver

honeychile · #56 01-03-2005, 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by AOIIsilver
Here, t he use of "Miss Mary" does NOT have anything to do with the marital status of the older woman. At least in my area, the most revered women are "Miss INSERT FIRST NAME" whether they are married or not. This status is especially reserved for older women with power and grace to whom you do not have a family connection (i.e. Aunt, etc.)
Silver

Absolutely! My mother always says that she knew she "arrived" in the business world when she universally became "Miss Dixie"!

Keep in mind that she started a business that is mostly for women who would not have had an opportunity to work otherwise. That was 27 years ago, and it's the largest of its kind in several counties!

Dionysus · #57 01-03-2005, 10:16 PM

I think reading too many long ass posts are ANNOYING! Especially if they don't have paragraph breaks.

AOIIsilver · #58 01-03-2005, 10:29 PM

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Absolutely! My mother always says that she knew she "arrived."

Honey, do any of the "Miss INSERT FIRST NAME" women that you know also...
own a 10-carat diamond bracelet, have a "purse dog," and discreetly place a sterling silver flask of good gin on their person????

Silver

norcalchick · #59 01-03-2005, 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by Dionysus
I think reading too many long ass posts are ANNOYING! Especially if they don't have paragraph breaks.

yes!

honeychile · #60 01-03-2005, 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by AOIIsilver
Honey, do any of the "Miss INSERT FIRST NAME" women that you know also...
own a 10-carat diamond bracelet, have a "purse dog," and discreetly place a sterling silver flask of good gin on their person????

Silver

Silver, my dear, of course some do! But some of the ladies prefer bourbon or cordials...