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09-20-2004, 11:55 AM
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People have a legal obligation not to supply alcohol to the underage, true. But I was responding to a point that had been made earlier that someone should have noticed how drunk she was, taken care of her, etc. As far as I know, there's no legal obligation to do that. I don't know Colorado law, either, but even if they have the strictest good-samaritan laws in the nation, the fact that a drunken college student has fallen asleep at a party at 5 a.m. probably doesn't qualify as the kind of situation where you can be liable for not calling 911...unless you witnessed the person drinking 30+ shots, then there's no reason to assume that their life's in danger.
At this point I don't think there's been any clues as to where she got the liquor. My guess is that no one place is going to give you 35 shots, and she probably got it at a lot of different parties.
The U Colorado story just made me ill...people were drawing on the face of the passed-out pledge, ha ha ha, and it turned out he was dead, oops! Some brotherhood. We shouldn't be surprised that a lot of schools are fighting Greek life so hard. It's tough for the responsible people to hang on to their reputations when behavior like this is poisoning the water.
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09-20-2004, 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by IvySpice
...people were drawing on the face of the passed-out pledge, ha ha ha, and it turned out he was dead, oops! Some brotherhood. We shouldn't be surprised that a lot of schools are fighting Greek life so hard. It's tough for the responsible people to hang on to their reputations when behavior like this is poisoning the water.
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I could not agree more. Although, I am hoping that they drew on him before they figured out he was dead. I seem to remember that guys in my crowd ran the risk of getting their toenails painted if they were among the first heading to bed after drinking much "party juice" (aka passing out). I don't think we ever used ink, though. But, yeah, I'm guessing the brothers aren't thinking it is too funny now. This is one of those things I'm sure they feel really badly for now.
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09-20-2004, 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by valkyrie
Has there been any indication that there is evidence that she was even drinking at the house?
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Yes. According to the FCPD's timeline investigation she drank beer and shots at the house after visiting the other parties. That's either posted somewhere here or in the Risk Management forum.
Here's a quote from the Rocky's timeline article...
"Two hours later, Spady would make her final stop at Sigma Pi, a house where she had concluded drinking nights before by passing out, the police said.
Change in demeanor
Twenty-five people had gathered in the brick fraternity house near campus, and Spady switched back to beer.
But as the crowd dwindled to about 10 at 3:30 a.m., Spady began what would be her final descent. Taking swigs from one or two bottles of McCormick's vodka, the former Nebraska high school honor student and homecoming queen's demeanor changed. She became visibly drunk and slurred her speech, Deputy Coroner Beers said.
About an hour before sunrise, Spady could no longer stand. She couldn't make sense when she spoke.
Two men who didn't live in the fraternity house put Spady's arms around their necks and carried her to an unused bedroom converted into a lounge.
Her girlfriend, who would tell police she drank close to what Spady did, checked on her and then went back to her dorm room.
The last time Spady was seen alive, she was lying on a couch on her stomach, using her hands to cushion her head, police said.
"We don't know if she was alive an hour or two beyond that point," Beers said.
In Spady's last moments, she slipped into unconsciousness, went into a coma and died. Beers said a blood-alcohol level of 0.4 is considered lethal."
This is just way too sad.
According to the above, this wasn't the first time she has passed out at the Sigma Pi house, so perhaps those there were off their guard.
On the other hand, it appears that there were numerous people and times to intervene, but nobody understood the gravity of the situation.
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Last edited by DeltAlum; 09-20-2004 at 01:48 PM.
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