Cosby Has MORE Harsh Words for Black Community

[Phasad1913]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by KSigkid
[B]The city of Boston has been doing this lately; there's been big cry to get clergy involved in keeping crime down, and in the past month or so prominent relgious leaders in the community have been teaming with the police to find answers.

Whether it's a genuine effort on the Boston Police Dept.'s part or just part of a PR campaign, I'm not entirely sure. We'll see though.

Doesn't matter to me, as long as the results are favorable.

[KSigkid]

Originally posted by Phasad1913
Doesn't matter to me, as long as the results are favorable.

True...I thought if nothing else it was an interesting idea on how to combat a problem.

[Rollergirl2001]

I agree with Cosby 100%. Children should value education more. Education will last longer than a pair of shoes. Education is for life. And yes, you have to be speech correct in the work place. We need to have more black doctors and lawyers as much as black professional athletes.

[abaici]

Audio from the speech:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv.../052304-1s.htm

[Phasad1913]

Originally posted by abaici
Audio from the speech:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv.../052304-1s.htm

When you're right, you're right.

[RBL]

I have notice changes in Mr Cosby since the paternity suit incident. I realize that he has had some challenges in his life but I would think his training would give him a little more insight to the facts and the contributions to the situation of the "underclass ". He seems to forget that he made a fortune off of a cartoon where folks did not always speak with "proper" English. Was it bad for kids to emulate Fat Albert and his crew? Did Mr Crosby insist that the corporations he sold products for adopt a community and fund programs that would improve the lifestyle of any of the families that were buying

for example. I am puzzled that Mr. Cosby does not understand that if you are poor and have no hope you are vulnerable to hanging out and fitting in with language and actions just to know that you count. If you are rich you just hang in different places and you talk about designer drugs, clothes, and hot spots, contributions are for memberships to clubs and schools for publicity and to keep your errant children in.. If he has a formula for helping young people give a damn he should not keep it a secret. If he has examples then he should present them. If he has an active program that he supports that worked with the entire picture then he should show it. We have too many people that know what is wrong but not enough that is willing to get close and uncomfortable to do something about it. We want folk to genuflect for everything we do why not do it even if you don't get appreciation. Don't sell out to Wall Street or Madison Ave get your fat check and talk about folk who "ain't" moving. Hell these are the same people that bought the products you hawked and watch the shows you were on and cheered you on through your situations with your children. What he said is true and every one he said it to and for knows there is a problem. His remarks were inappropriate because he did not present anything to solve the problems or how to attack the problem core. I wonder if he thinks a man would feel better about bringing his children jello pudding or designer sneakers. Because you know we have gotten to the point that it is about how we feel not how we live. Understanding that before you can talk about or criticize someone's priorities you need to have some means of defining what priority is and how to identify a priority. If you have a generation of miss educated folks that were begat by a generation of miss educated folks that were begat by a generation of I got mine you got your to get. OH well as usual we get distracted by the results and have no time for the root.

[Senusret I]

Ladies and Gentlemen....there goes an Alpha Man.

Well said, Frat. WELL SAID.

Originally posted by RBL
I have notice changes in Mr Cosby since the paternity suit incident. I realize that he has had some challenges in his life but I would think his training would give him a little more insight to the facts and the contributions to the situation of the "underclass ". He seems to forget that he made a fortune off of a cartoon where folks did not always speak with "proper" English. Was it bad for kids to emulate Fat Albert and his crew? Did Mr Crosby insist that the corporations he sold products for adopt a community and fund programs that would improve the lifestyle of any of the families that were buying

for example. I am puzzled that Mr. Cosby does not understand that if you are poor and have no hope you are vulnerable to hanging out and fitting in with language and actions just to know that you count. If you are rich you just hang in different places and you talk about designer drugs, clothes, and hot spots, contributions are for memberships to clubs and schools for publicity and to keep your errant children in.. If he has a formula for helping young people give a damn he should not keep it a secret. If he has examples then he should present them. If he has an active program that he supports that worked with the entire picture then he should show it. We have too many people that know what is wrong but not enough that is willing to get close and uncomfortable to do something about it. We want folk to genuflect for everything we do why not do it even if you don't get appreciation. Don't sell out to Wall Street or Madison Ave get your fat check and talk about folk who "ain't" moving. Hell these are the same people that bought the products you hawked and watch the shows you were on and cheered you on through your situations with your children. What he said is true and every one he said it to and for knows there is a problem. His remarks were inappropriate because he did not present anything to solve the problems or how to attack the problem core. I wonder if he thinks a man would feel better about bringing his children jello pudding or designer sneakers. Because you know we have gotten to the point that it is about how we feel not how we live. Understanding that before you can talk about or criticize someone's priorities you need to have some means of defining what priority is and how to identify a priority. If you have a generation of miss educated folks that were begat by a generation of miss educated folks that were begat by a generation of I got mine you got your to get. OH well as usual we get distracted by the results and have no time for the root.

And for the record, I think the changes that you speak of came after his son was killed, less so than the paternity suit.

[Diamond Delta]

Originally posted by RBL
I have notice changes in Mr Cosby since the paternity suit incident. I realize that he has had some challenges in his life but I would think his training would give him a little more insight to the facts and the contributions to the situation of the "underclass ". He seems to forget that he made a fortune off of a cartoon where folks did not always speak with "proper" English. Was it bad for kids to emulate Fat Albert and his crew? Did Mr Crosby insist that the corporations he sold products for adopt a community and fund programs that would improve the lifestyle of any of the families that were buying

for example. I am puzzled that Mr. Cosby does not understand that if you are poor and have no hope you are vulnerable to hanging out and fitting in with language and actions just to know that you count. If you are rich you just hang in different places and you talk about designer drugs, clothes, and hot spots, contributions are for memberships to clubs and schools for publicity and to keep your errant children in.. If he has a formula for helping young people give a damn he should not keep it a secret. If he has examples then he should present them. If he has an active program that he supports that worked with the entire picture then he should show it. We have too many people that know what is wrong but not enough that is willing to get close and uncomfortable to do something about it. We want folk to genuflect for everything we do why not do it even if you don't get appreciation. Don't sell out to Wall Street or Madison Ave get your fat check and talk about folk who "ain't" moving. Hell these are the same people that bought the products you hawked and watch the shows you were on and cheered you on through your situations with your children. What he said is true and every one he said it to and for knows there is a problem. His remarks were inappropriate because he did not present anything to solve the problems or how to attack the problem core. I wonder if he thinks a man would feel better about bringing his children jello pudding or designer sneakers. Because you know we have gotten to the point that it is about how we feel not how we live. Understanding that before you can talk about or criticize someone's priorities you need to have some means of defining what priority is and how to identify a priority. If you have a generation of miss educated folks that were begat by a generation of miss educated folks that were begat by a generation of I got mine you got your to get. OH well as usual we get distracted by the results and have no time for the root.

It didn't matter how poor my family was, my mother would slap the taste out of my mouth if she heard me saying some of the things kids say today. She also insisted we tuck in our shirts, say ma'am and Grace, do our homework and when the teacher called home to say little Jennie wasn't very respectful in class, whooooo did I get the buckle of the belt! Poor doesn't have to equal low class.

Originally posted by RBL
I have notice changes in Mr Cosby since the paternity suit incident. I realize that he has had some challenges in his life but I would think his training would give him a little more insight to the facts and the contributions to the situation of the "underclass ". He seems to forget that he made a fortune off of a cartoon where folks did not always speak with "proper" English. Was it bad for kids to emulate Fat Albert and his crew? Did Mr Crosby insist that the corporations he sold products for adopt a community and fund programs that would improve the lifestyle of any of the families that were buying

for example. I am puzzled that Mr. Cosby does not understand that if you are poor and have no hope you are vulnerable to hanging out and fitting in with language and actions just to know that you count. If you are rich you just hang in different places and you talk about designer drugs, clothes, and hot spots, contributions are for memberships to clubs and schools for publicity and to keep your errant children in.. If he has a formula for helping young people give a damn he should not keep it a secret. If he has examples then he should present them. If he has an active program that he supports that worked with the entire picture then he should show it. We have too many people that know what is wrong but not enough that is willing to get close and uncomfortable to do something about it. We want folk to genuflect for everything we do why not do it even if you don't get appreciation. Don't sell out to Wall Street or Madison Ave get your fat check and talk about folk who "ain't" moving. Hell these are the same people that bought the products you hawked and watch the shows you were on and cheered you on through your situations with your children. What he said is true and every one he said it to and for knows there is a problem. His remarks were inappropriate because he did not present anything to solve the problems or how to attack the problem core. I wonder if he thinks a man would feel better about bringing his children jello pudding or designer sneakers. Because you know we have gotten to the point that it is about how we feel not how we live. Understanding that before you can talk about or criticize someone's priorities you need to have some means of defining what priority is and how to identify a priority. If you have a generation of miss educated folks that were begat by a generation of miss educated folks that were begat by a generation of I got mine you got your to get. OH well as usual we get distracted by the results and have no time for the root.

Well put.

[RBL]

Originally posted by Senusret I
Ladies and Gentlemen....there goes an Alpha Man.

Well said, Frat. WELL SAID.




And for the record, I think the changes that you speak of came came after his son was killed, less so than the paternity suit.

As I re-read my post I think you may be right

[AKA2D '91]

Cosby wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth. His mother was a domestic (like many folks' mothers). So is this a matter of "forgetting from whence you came?"

Wasn't his Cosby Kids show or concept part of his Thesis? He has received alot of HONORARY degrees, but I think he EARNED the EdD.

[Honeykiss1974]

Or is the issue not the fact that these comments have truth to them, but the fact that it came from Bill Cosby?

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
Or is the issue not the fact that these comments have truth to them, but the fact that it came from Bill Cosby?

Perhaps that's the issue...that huggable, lovable Bill Cosby showed some fangs. Well, I think it's past time that some of us show fangs.

I know that I keep beating this dead horse, but the wider society is not going to rescue us. There's been serious compassion fatigue for 20 years.

[Steeltrap]

Good Clarence Page column on the Cosby issue. He brings up a concept called "self-reliance liberalism" that says yes, wealthier AfAms should give back, but the less-affluent need to hold up their end of the bargain:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...l=chi-news-col

[abaici]

Originally posted by AKA2D '91

Wasn't his Cosby Kids show or concept part of his Thesis? He has received alot of HONORARY degrees, but I think he EARNED the EdD.

You are correct.