Who's enjoying the Liberal mudslinging???

[RACooper]

Oh yeah.. the crazy old dude who does the Stompin Tom impressions....

Right now I'm all politic'd out.. boarder at the house works for Martin so it was all politics tonight.. considering we have rush and alumni that work for the PCs and NDP.....

He also wanted to try and findout if I had any dirt on Layton's family... not impressed by that. Mike might be from another Frat.. but still he's a UofT Frat-boy which garners him some respect and protection in my opinion.

[Lady Pi Phi]

That's disgusting. I would have let him know right there what I thought of him and his tactics.

I wish people would stick to the issues.

[aurora_borealis]

Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
That's disgusting. I would have let him know right there what I thought of him and his tactics.

I wish people would stick to the issues.

Isn't that the problem though? People who cannot stick to the issues, or speak on them, just insult and name call, then start a fight because they have nothing else. They couldn't win on the level, because they don't have the skills, so they resort to name calling, smearing, and trying to discredit the other. On the less political level it shows that those people are insecure and really don't like themselves so much. You almost have to feel sorry for them because they are so miserable, and want other people to feel as horrible as they do.

[Lady Pi Phi]

I do feel sorry for them. They go off on their tangents without making a point and feel they have won the argument.
But the only reason they get the last word is because people are sick or arguing with them. Everyone just gives up.

[ThetokenCanuck]

I think that not sticking to the issus is what is really the conservatives weakest point. They have been the opposition party too long and are not thinking as a WINNING party..Okay Steven Harper-we KNOW that the liberals wasted money but what is your policy on health care, aboriginals etc..BESIDES the military. People want to know what kind of Canada he will create not what kind of Canada we shouldnt have.

A good example of this weakness can be seen in the Rae party..they had been in teh oppoistion so long that they didnt know what to do with themselves when they won..

Okay i am going to stop now it feels like i am writing another poli sci essay!! lol.

[RACooper]

Okay it's another week... and another week of promises

So far I have liked specific policies promised by the big three... that has only served to reinforce my earlier wish that you could pick and chose elements of each party <sigh>

I liked the Liberals and their promise of redistributing gas taxes to the provinces and cities... don't know if I trust their healthcare promises though.

I have like comments about the NDP with regards to education and healthcare, well more than the Liberals or PCs....

Finally I loved Harper's promise to increase defense spending by ten times what the Liberals did... the Canadian military needs to upgrade equipment and numbers in a big way and stop using so much veitnam-era crap.

[ThetokenCanuck]

Maybe they should change the policies about the equipment..you see the Canadian military will not buy any equipment that is made overseas but they acquire the permit and then make it in Canada..a good idea but it usualy takes bare minimum 5 years from an idea to actualy acquire the equipment..

So the Conservatives are in the lead...not going to lie..a lot of liberals are flipping out...just the word from Ottawa..

what do you think about the conservatives about having a third party conselling before obtaining an abortion??

[RACooper]

Actually the procurement guidelines are a little more complicated... for example equipment can be purchased from allies, as long as replacement parts are available locally... makes sense strategically as well as economincally: no major production costs associated with establishing a new facility, only retooling costs. However major production jobs are lost, as well as the future oppurunity for major restruction and producation of the equipment.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by ThetokenCanuck


what do you think about the conservatives about having a third party conselling before obtaining an abortion??

Harper said that it wasn't up to him/Ottawa, but the provinces to decide on abortion. According to the news tonight, it was merely a candidate's belief.

[ThetokenCanuck]

I wanted to know what peoples opinion of this idea..do you agree with it??

[Taualumna]

I think people should be well informed about their options.

[aurora_borealis]

I'm not Canadian, but LadyPiPhi said I can comment if I am respectful and nice tee hee

One thing that was a consideration when I lived in Alaska, was a counseling session/waiting period for abortions. There was the issue of travel. Canada, much like Alaska, has a lot of remote areas that don't have local services, and require many arrangements for medical care. For those that have to come for far away, that session could be an issue with travel, lodging, and cost. I am not sure exactly how abortions are handled (government hospitals, clinics, doctor's office, etc) but for those far out there, it may cause a hardship. Also depending on the area, by the time she realizes she is pregnant, the window of opportunity may be closing. The situation that was put forth in Alaska is something like this: girl goes to big city, gets a counseling session, is persuaded to change her mind, returns home, then decides not to have baby, has to go back, or have an unwanted baby. Exactly *who* is doing the counseling sessions makes a big difference as well.

Please send Crunchie bars!!!!

[Lady Pi Phi]

We like aurora_borealis in Canada and would be happy to send her Crunchie bars

Anyway, I don't have a problem with having a third party counsel a pregnant woman when she's considering abortions.

My problem would be if they decide to revert back to the old ways and have a council of doctors approve whether or not the woman is a candidate for abortion.

This third party should be an object non-biased person (in an ideal world this person would be 100% objective) and educated the woman on all her choices so the woman would know her options and then make the best decision for herself.

Although I'm pretty sure they already do this don't they?

[RACooper]

Oh well... Harper did have a chance of getting my vote with some statements... but not after the last two days:

He specifically cited the Holly Jones case despite the wishes of the family. The family requested that their daughter not be used as a platform or issue for legal reform, but instead be remembered as the happy girl she was...

His condesending attitude and smuggness when refering to the other parties or differing opinions... sorry that's one thing that has bugged me about the Bush administration.

So I've resorted to the usual Canadian approach to politics... trying to pick the guy that I hate the least


edited to change the name to right name... my bad

[Lady Pi Phi]

Originally posted by RACooper
Oh well... Harper did have a chance of getting my vote with some statements... but not after the last two days:

He specifically cited the Holly Johnson case despite the wishes of the family. The family requested that their daughter not be used as a platform or issue for legal reform, but instead be remembered as the happy girl she was...

His condesending attitude and smuggness when refering to the other parties or differing opinions... sorry that's one thing that has bugged me about the Bush administration.

So I've resorted to the usual Canadian approach to politics... trying to pick the guy that I hate the least

Holly Johnson? Do you mean Holly Jones?