Fraternities use step to mix races

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by abaici
Exactly! It's just another avenue to help the two groups relate to one another. It's a start.

Big ole co-sign on the last part...even though they may attempt it...they can NEVER do it quite the way that WE do it


**NOTE** By WE, I meant members of the D9 who take us back to the motherland when they step. I do not include my rhythmless self in that bunch

Umm, I'm going to have to ask Soror abaici to go to the corner with that smiley. I'm on the floor.

--from yet another member of the Rhythmless Nation.

[starang21]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
I am not trying to start a fight/flame war here, I'm legitmately curious.

Since some of you appear to be concerned about white orgs "stealing" your stepping without understanding the history of it, I'm curious if you are taught the history of fraternities and sororities beginning with Phi Beta Kappa, or if your history starts in 1906 or 1908?

does this question have a point? because i'm not seeing it at all. what does stepping have to do with phi beta kappa?

[ykimber]

Oh my the drama! I am starting to wonder if I should have posted this story!

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by starang21
does this question have a point? because i'm not seeing it at all. what does stepping have to do with phi beta kappa?

Let me spell it out for you:

Some BGLO members on GC are concerned that members of other orgs are "stealing" stepping without learning history.

I am curious to know if the history of Greek organizations before APhiA or AKA is taught to members of BGLOs, or if their history starts in 1906.

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by ykimber
Oh my the drama! I am starting to wonder if I should have posted this story!

Don't wonder. It was a fine story. Remember, everybody's going to have an opinion, but to my mind, it hasn't devolved into any real attacks per se.

[deuika]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Let me spell it out for you:

Some BGLO members on GC are concerned that members of other orgs are "stealing" stepping without learning history.

I am curious to know if the history of Greek organizations before APhiA or AKA is taught to members of BGLOs, or if their history starts in 1906.

As for my own pondering, why would they be concerned with the history of Phi Beta Kappa? If one was interested in the origins of Greek Lettered Organizations period, why of course this would be important information, but why would this history be relevant to that specifically of BGLOs? Isn't Phi Beta Kappa an academic organization? Yes, the oldest of Greek Lettered Orgs, but really has no hmmm what's the word, relevance to that of Black Greek Lettered Organizations. Are you implying that BGLOs are stealing from GLOs by being Greek Lettered without adding an appendage citing Phi Beta Kappa?

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by deuika
As for my own pondering, why would they be concerned with the history of Phi Beta Kappa? If one was interested in the origins of Greek Lettered Organizations period, why of course this would be important information, but why would this history be relevant to that specifically of BGLOs? Isn't Phi Beta Kappa an academic organization? Yes, the oldest of Greek Lettered Orgs, but really has no hmmm what's the word, relevance to that of Black Greek Lettered Organizations. Are you implying that BGLOs are stealing from GLOs by being Greek Lettered without adding an appendage citing Phi Beta Kappa?

Not in the least. You clearly don't know your GLO history as well as you think. Phi Beta Kappa was the first Greek-lettered fraternity and was founded as a social organization, becoming academic only after campus protest forced the revealing of their secret motto. It was the predecessor to the modern American fraternity system.

Also, at a minimum, you'd think that the 4 sororities in the NPHC would learn the history of the word sorority, since it is something they chose to incorporate in their name. That history is included in the NME of all other NPC sororities besides the one the word was coined for.

I am just curious that they assume we don't already know the history of stepping, or that the Alphas and Sigmas didn't teach it as they taught stepping. While it was nice to see the article give Greek coverage, the article wasn't exactly accurate (Phi Gamma Alpha and Phi Kappa Alpha as two examples) and did not cover every single situation.

I will wait for an NPHC member to clarify this information for me.

[deuika]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Not in the least. You clearly don't know your GLO history as well as you think.

Yeah, that's kinda why I posed it as a question.
But please do wait for an NPHC member to answer, I certainly don't know.
It wasn't my intent to answer in the first place, but to pose an additional question, as I think I did.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by deuika
Yeah, that's kinda why I posed it as a question.
But please do wait for an NPHC member to answer, I certainly don't know.
It wasn't my intent to answer in the first place, but to pose an additional question, as I think I did.

I thought you were doing it in a sarcastic manner. If you're interested in reading more about Phi Beta Kappa, wptw and MysticCat81 have made some good posts on it in the past.

[CrimsonTide4]

Originally posted by SKEEphistAKAte
am I arguing the importance of preserving our African American culture with a black man who wears a mullet?
*going to sit my ass down and ponder this*----------->

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm you are now the DRIVER of the handbasket to hell.


Okay folks I had not looked at this thread in a few days. I will be back later as I see it might have gotten out of hand.

Remember to respect the rules of this forum in the meantime.

Intelligent debate is appreciated and welcomed here.

[SKEEphistAKAte]

Truthfully, I don't even care if the white steppers DID learn the meaning of it or history behind it. I still don't like the idea of them stepping. Point blank. That is my opinion, if yours differs so be it.

*going to ponder why some geeky penguin is questioning what I was taught during MY process*-------->

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by SKEEphistAKAte
Truthfully, I don't even care if the white steppers DID learn the meaning of it or history behind it. I still don't like the idea of them stepping. Point blank. That is my opinion, if yours differs so be it.

*going to ponder why some geeky penguin is questioning what I was taught during MY process*-------->

Because you were questioning what these people were taught. 95% of the material we are taught during NPC intake is NOT SECRET and sometimes we forget that y'all dont' do it the same way.

Have a great day.

[SKEEphistAKAte]

The secrecy of the history of stepping is not the issue here. There are published books on it. The point that was made was whether or not you white people even took the time to consider that this, does in fact, have some meaning to us rather than it being some form of entertainment. Kill that secrecy bull. You are right we do it differently. But you all like "different", right?

**chanting "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery..."**

You have a nice day also, Geeky

[CrimsonTide4]

Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Also, at a minimum, you'd think that the 4 sororities in the NPHC would learn the history of the word sorority, since it is something they chose to incorporate in their name. That history is included in the NME of all other NPC sororities besides the one the word was coined for.

Why would you say this? Who said that we don't know the history of the word sorority?

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
Why would you say this? Who said that we don't know the history of the word sorority?

I didn't say you didn't know. I said I'd think it's something you would be taught. Nobody is answering my question, which is are you guys taught that history?

Who started this event? Did the Alphas and the Sigmas invite these groups to do it?