Janet Jackson Purse on E-bay

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
I am not surprised at all by the responses here...now Janet's the victim and the FCC is the bully for trying to say something about it...or when folks know they don't make sense they resort to saying...well what about kid rock..well what about daytime television...well what about the commercials..as if this minimizes what happened.

Its so sad because I dont think we see that this mentality is as much a part of the problem as the actions of the media moguls. **SMH**

DO NOT PUT WORDS INTO MY MOUTH AND DO NOT ACCUSE ME OF NOT MAKING SENSE! I really don't appreciate it. I don't come here to start fights. I come here to enjoy myself.

I never said Janet is the victim here and the FCC is the bully. The only thing I said is that I'm surprised that people aren't as outraged over Kid Rock wearing the American flag as the poncho.

[CrimsonTide4]

MTV's Freston: We Got 'Punk'd' by Jackson
Tue Feb 3, 2:12 PM ET

By SETH SUTEL, AP Business Writer

NEW YORK - MTV says it got punk'd by Janet Jackson (news). Tom Freston, the chairman and CEO of MTV Networks, said Tuesday neither his company nor CBS knew of plans for the bodice-ripping incident during the Super Bowl halftime show.

MTV and CBS landed in a world of trouble with outraged viewers and federal regulators looking into who knew of Jackson's plans to have Justin Timberlake (news) grab off part of her costume during the show, which was produced by MTV.


"We were really ripped off. We were punk'd by Janet Jackson," Freston said, referring to MTV's reality show that makes celebrities the butt of practical jokes.


Freston, speaking at a panel discussion with other entertainment executives, noted that Jackson herself has said the decision to do the stunt was made without MTV's knowledge.


Jackson said the incident, which exposed her right breast, went further than planned. A spokeswoman for Jackson said a red lace garment was supposed to remain when Timberlake tore off the outer covering.


"When you're doing live television ... there's a great reliance and trust you have to put in the performers," Freston said in an interview after the panel talk. "And our trust was violated by the performer."


"Janet Jackson isn't the type of person you would think would be doing that," Freston said. "So yes, we were surprised, but such is the nature of what live TV can be."


Freston said in the interview that he welcomed the Federal Communications Commission (news - web sites)'s decision to investigate the matter, which he said would prove that the show's producers and broadcasters had no prior knowledge of Jackson's plans.


As for avoiding such missteps in the future, Freston said: "I suppose we'll be more on our toes about getting punk'd, as it were. ... We clearly know the difference between late night on MTV and the Super Bowl halftime show."


Freston had been speaking on a panel sponsored by The Conference Board (news - web sites) and The Week magazine along with Ron Meyer, president and COO of Vivendi Universal Entertainment and Robert Shaye, co-chairman, co-CEO and founder of New Line Cinema.

[lovelyivy84]

I don't know how it makes it less of a negative to note that they are shifting the blame as fast as they can issue press releases.

No one said that what happened was appropriate, just that if Janet is going to catch hell for it, she is not the only one who deserves part of the blame.

That means they all share the blame.

Please tell me where any of my statements excuse anyone involved from responsibility?

[UpPinkies]

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
I think you missed Soror Lady Greek's ENTIRE point. She said when you watched the type of things you mentioned..or went to her concerts..YOU KNEW what you were getting into. Watching the SUper Bowl...on a SUnday...at 6pm...it is not fair to expect to see nudity.... Maybe you raise your kids where nudity is ok to be viewed around age 7 or 8..but many folks dont. And many of the instances you are mentioning were either on cable, in a concert, or not on in primetime...

So much filth is thrown around these days..that everything is dumbed down...oh its ok..its just a BREAST!! oh its ok..its just 2 women kissing! OUr kids will see it anyway..

No, I did not miss her point. I am big fan of Janet and I expect there to be big surprises when she is performing. So this was no different for me. Super Bowl to ME, has never been a family event. Every year my aunt, father, and godfather go but it was never an event where the whole family went to celebrate. I agree with what the other poster said when did super bowl become a family event? I read and understood the post clearly and my opinion is just different from yours and Lady's Greeks. So, it was on prime time television, I can also say why wasn't your child reading a book or doing his homework because the next day was a school day. I believe there is so much more going on in this world then to worry about something every woman has.

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
I am not surprised at all by the responses here...now Janet's the victim and the FCC is the bully for trying to say something about it...or when folks know they don't make sense they resort to saying...well what about kid rock..well what about daytime television...well what about the commercials..as if this minimizes what happened.

Its so sad because I dont think we see that this mentality is as much a part of the problem as the actions of the media moguls. **SMH**

I would hardly call asking the FCC to focus on cleaning up standard television AS A WHOLE and AT THE SAME TIME as something that doesn't make sense. What is the problem with doing a "clean sweep" so to speak right now since the FCC is going at this with "all guns drawn"?

If some folks are satisfied with a crumb, then that's them. It is this "a piece is betta than nothing" mentality that does nothing to further the cause of those of us who demand MORE from media outlets, production companies, etc.

ETA: Regarding MTV

Why are they acting like "risque" acts such as this never occurs on their channel? The way they talk, you think halftime was sponsored by the Disney channel.

[nikki1920]

So the FCC can get its panties in a bunch b/c Janet's boobie pops out, but it turns its head when Bono says the f word on live tv? And then explains itself by saying b/c he used it as an adjective, it was not indecent?

I agree with the person who made the comment re: September 11. My daughter watched Disney Channel all day b/c the burning buildings, and bodies falling were a little too much.

[DELTABRAT]

What about Justin? ThIS ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGES me! It's basically sexism and racism..period because she (the black woman) did not pull her own f__cking top down nor was it ONLY her idea to do so (the white man did)!!!

[mulattogyrl]

I agree with you UpPinkies. I think we have a lot more going on in this world than to worry about Janet's boob. Yes, I think it was done in bad taste, but if you turn on BET and watch music videos, you're not seeing much of a difference, and they're on all day long. I think we have to teach our children the morals and values we want them to learn, because what's out there is out there. We have much bigger battles to fight regarding what we see through the media then two seconds of a bodypart I fed my child with.

[Virtual Violet]

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
MTV's Freston: We Got 'Punk'd' by Jackson
Tue Feb 3, 2:12 PM ET


Jackson said the incident, which exposed her right breast, went further than planned. A spokeswoman for Jackson said a red lace garment was supposed to remain when Timberlake tore off the outer covering.

Ummmm....me thinks that ain't true. I saw some additional stills from "boobie-gate" and if you notice, the red lace was only TRIMMING the cup. And the cup had SNAPS around it....so when Justin pulled it, the entire thing (trim and all) was going to come off, exposing the boobie!

What people are forgetting is that Janet has had her "nips" pierced for a few years now, so that nipple ring was probably her usual jewlery.

[ladygreek]

AGAIN, my issue is not the fact that her boob was exposed--accident or not--in fact I was more embarrassed by the Celiac commercial and the four hour erection comment. BUT, I do understand about parents being upset.

Yes, for a lot of families, mine included, Super Bowl Sunday is a big deal and a fun time for all generations to watch TV together. My daughter has watched the Super Bowl with me, our family, and other families since she was old enough to know what a football was. (And I made sure her homework was done beforehand.) We love the sport and it is different than any other final championship game because you knew exactly when it would be and could plan the festivites ahead of time.

And until very recent years the half-time was geared to the broader market. It is just recently that the target demographics has shifted. I sat there wondering how all those teens got tickets to the game or was there a special ticket sale just for the half-time.

I believe that Janet did not intend for her breast to show, but I also think it was bad judgement on her and Justin's part to even think that having her red bra left to show was appropriate. I think the song was inappropriate. I think it was inappropriate for Nelly to constantly grab his crotch and I think Kid Rock was inappropriate.

But I put the real blame on the NFL, CBS and MTV (both owned by Viacom) or whoever decided that the half-time had to appeal to a specific demographics and not the overall demographics of professional football. Add that to the fact that most of the commercials were for beer, and teenaged drinking is a huge problem, it is rather hypocritical.

Whew, okay I'm done.

[ladygreek]

Sorry, one more thing. I also think a bigger deal is being made of it because she is Michael's sister. I can just hear the FCC now--Boy that Jackson family has a pedophile and an exhibitionist. We'd better take a real hard stance on this one.*SMH*

[Marie]

Personally, I think that the way this whole incident is being handled is making it more "traumatic" and "memorable" for children than it needs to be. On the most basic level it was 1 breast for 2 seconds. Maybe if parents simply explained to their kids that Janet's shirt accidentally came a loose, her breast was exposed, and a breast is a natural and beautiful part of every woman's body, they wouldn't be mesmorized by the whole incident. Now I'm not saying that parents should say it as "sappy" and "textbook" as I did, or that parents should be ok w/breasts or other body parts being shown on TV at all times of the day. However, I feel that calling this incident flith and disgusting makes kids think that there is something unnatural or wrong about the human body. Forgive me if I'm not being clear. Some experts feel that the US has higher rates for rape and sex crimes because sexuality and the human body are so "taboo", and because we aren't comfortable with them. Maybe if we teach our kids that the human body is natural and not worthy of headline news, we can change some deeper aspects of our society.

Ok, last thought I promise. Maybe our society is evloving, so that we are more comfortable with nudity and sexuality. For instance many parents were outraged when sex ed was 1st being introduced into the classroom. However, now most people feel that it is healthy for kids to learn about their bodies, their emotions, and how they change. Parents were also outraged when condoms were 1st given out in high schools and colleges. However, now most parents would prefer that their kids be safe from disease and unplanned pregnancy, which were already an issue for kids. Perhaps this is similar. I'm not suggesting that people should be totally nude on TV. However, maybe many people aren't outraged b/c they are becoming more comfortable with nudity and sexuality.

OK, I've gone on too long. I apologize for the lengthy post.

Marie

[tld221]

viacom cant complain too much of course-- their stock went up 1% yesterday. not bad for showin skin.

of course that means i will hear it, becuase i'm putting a monetary value on teh female body, etc. plz. wont be the first or last time it happens.

and please! TOTALLY INTENTIONAL! but janet sure looked PO'ed.
and justin was doin a helluva grindin on her. as "sexual" as she is, a boob exposure shouldnt be a big of a deal. but i would be mad too!

remember: totally intentional.

that is all.

[CrimsonTide4]

Last night's newscast in Charlotte featured interviews with the folks who sold Janet her clothes or what not, but I tuned it out.

Spike Lee Blasts Janet's Breast Baring
Spike Lee Blasts Jackson's Breast-Baring
1 hour, 6 minutes ago

By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer

NEW YORK - Film director Spike Lee (news) criticized Janet Jackson (news)'s surprise breast-baring during the Super Bowl halftime show last weekend as a "new low" of attention-getting antics by entertainers.



Meanwhile, Jackson issued another apology in a videotape released to the media. The pop star had apologized Monday night in a written statement.


"I am really sorry if I offended anyone. That was truly not my intention," she said. "MTV, CBS, the NFL had no knowledge of this whatsoever, and unfortunately, the whole thing went wrong in the end."


At the end of their duet Sunday, Justin Timberlake (news) snatched off part of Jackson's bustier on stage, revealing a breast clad only in a sun-shaped "nipple shield" to some 89 million viewers.


Lee, speaking at Kent State University's regional campus in Stark County, Ohio, on Tuesday night, said there has been a decline in artistry.


He said it's not enough to be a good singer, and that entertainers "have to do something extra" — such as the openmouthed kiss Madonna (news - web sites) gave Britney Spears (news) and Christina Aguilera (news) during the MTV Video Music Awards in August.


"What's gonna be next? It's getting crazy, and it's all down to money. Money and fame," said Lee, the director of "Malcolm X" and "Do the Right Thing." "Somehow the whole value system has been upended."


Jackson's spokeswoman, Jennifer Holiner, said a red lace garment was supposed to remain when Timberlake tore off the outer covering. But widespread questions remained about the intent.


The one-second flashing continued to cause reverberations Tuesday, as CBS said it would institute a video delay system to avoid any recurrence at the Grammy awards.


Timberlake, who is nominated for five Grammy Awards, is scheduled to perform on Sunday's telecast. Jackson is supposed to present an award.


"Unfortunately, we cannot count on those who appear on our air to live up to our standards," said Martin Franks, CBS executive vice president.


CBS faces a Federal Communications Commission (news - web sites) investigation into whether the Super Bowl show violated decency laws, with potential fines of up to $27,500. If applied to each CBS station, the fine could reach into the millions.


FCC (news - web sites) chief Michael Powell (news) said Tuesday that the agency had begun a formal investigation, and a letter was sent to CBS. "It's well under way," he said.


All five commissioners expressed concern about the Super Bowl broadcast, but Powell declined to speculate on what the FCC would do once the investigation was finished.


Powell said he wasn't happy with the halftime show in general, which featured performances by Nelly and Kid Rock before the bump-and-grind duet with Jackson and Timberlake. Nelly gestured toward his crotch, while Kid Rock draped himself in an American flag-designed poncho.


Tom Freston, chairman of MTV Networks, said he welcomed the FCC's investigation, which he said will prove that the show's producers and broadcasters had no prior knowledge of the stunt. MTV produced the halftime show.


"We were really ripped off. We were punk'd by Janet Jackson," Freston said, referring to MTV's reality show that makes celebrities the butt of practical jokes.


AP writers Seth Sutel and Nekesa Mumbi Moody contributed to this report.
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On another list, (no article to confirm it) a poster stated that Janet admitted that breast baring was planned.

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