The Apprentice

[AEPhiSierra]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
And I'm sure even if Sam was the leader for the next mission, and they fail, he won't get fired. Frump is prolly keeping him there for entertainment. Either that or I think he's a decoy.

I said the exact same thing to my mother when I was watching. I thought maybe Sam was like a mole trying to test how the team deals with a weak team member. Either that or Donald Trump is secretly in love with him - why else would you keep a man who slept on the floor at work and then lied about it (he tried to deny it even though Trump was like I saw the tapes stupid)

[ZTAngel]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00

And I'm sure even if Sam was the leader for the next mission, and they fail, he won't get fired. Frump is prolly keeping him there for entertainment. Either that or I think he's a decoy.

I was thinking that too. I wonder if the producers of the show have any say in who stays and who goes. If so, the producers could be telling Trump to keep Sam around just because he adds drama. The producers think the show wouldn't be interesting if they eliminated the drama causing people too soon.

[rho4life]

Originally posted by DeltaBetaBaby
Damn, my opinions have changed since last week.

I like Omarosa last week, and now I think she is a drama queen. Correct me if I am wrong, but she called Erika racist for using the phrase "pot calling the kettle black."

I still think Sam needs to go, and I almost wonder if he was kept around for entertainment value. I'm sorry, but there was no excuse for falling asleep.

Why did they have to fire the hot one???

I too wonder if Sam is being kept just to test how the others deal w/ a challenging employee. The D said last night that Sammie wouldn't be working there b/c there was too much of a risk he'd f' up big.

Ummmm, O.......Clean your ears. It's one thing to be a strong black woman [yay - strive to emulate Oprah], it's another think to be a crazy black woman [boo- srtiving to emulate Michael/Michelle Jackson] and accuse people of being racist when they're really just using a common metaphor

I think that O needs a hug.

[PsychTau]

Sam is being kept around as a mole or decoy or something....Trump either wants to see how the other guys learn to handle him without tearing the whole team apart (like a team-building task) or he's around for the drama. Trump's a smart man...he understands ratings, etc. and I think he knows people won't watch this show just to see him...he doesn't have that many fans.

Omarosa showed us her agenda on the plane when she snapped back at Erika ("There you go with your racism again....They just don't know how to handle a strong black woman, etc."). No offense to anyone, but it's not about being a strong black woman necessarily.....it's about being a strong business woman..... HOWEVER, Omarosa is shrewd....she's not yelling all the time like Erika, and she knows how to push buttons. It's been Erika's buttons the first two weeks, but Erika was an easy target (very passionate, gets loud quickly and easily, emotional). Omarosa's watching the others and seeing what buttons she can push in the next few weeks.

Erika's good, but too explosive. Emotions will get her into trouble.

I have a feeling that the women, although they like to win, will figure out if they lose, they might get Omarosa or Erika out (it's not clear to me who they want to keep at this point...) However, whomever the leader is will probably nominate Omarosa AND Erika in order to make sure one of them is gone (unless it backfires and the leader is fired).

I love shows like this cause I can analyze the hell out of them!!!

PsychTau

[Rain Man]

...I will post a summary of them here.

While I understand the whole commotion of this Sam/Omarosa dilemma, you must understand, the winner is determined by the one who possesses the strongest leadership potential and corporate business saavy, not who is the most popular and the most buddy-buddy. This is in part, the reason why I like this reality show b/c normally I do not watch reality shows, as they are too drama-oriented with no real substance to support it.

Being an MBA, I like watching the corporate-oriented business techniques and strategies these individuals are exercising and practicing, and that is the primary reason why I am watching this show. The drama and BMC sessions and commentaries during the projects I could care less about; they should be reserved for where it counts; the boardroom w/Mr. Trump. The cattiness with the women during the plane ride to Boston was pathetic and unnecessary.

As far as why Sam & Omarosa are still in, it should be obvious; being outspoken and unconventional (which is what the drama with them boils down to) does not inherently demonstate lack of professional business leadership skills, thus it is not a sufficient reason to eliminate them from the contest at this time. Both have in their own way demonstrated leadership potential; they have not yet had a opportunity to truly demonstrate it where it counts. Once that has been done, a better assessment of whether they should stay or go can be determined.

In all fairness, please be objective and try to reserve the Sam/Omarosa complaints until such time.

[PM_Mama00]

Uhhh Rain Man did you not see Sam fall asleep on the table, and then move to the floor "in fetal position" WHILE they were trying to work on the advertisement? How the hell is that business savvy and why does he deserve to be looked at "objectively"?

[DeltaBetaBaby]

I wish that they hadn't gone men vs. women.

I think it would have been a much better show if the teams were "MBA educated" vs. "learned in the real world."

[Hootie]

Here's my take on a few things:

First of all I don't think the women will intentionally lose just so they can get one of their own booted (ie. Omorosa). I think they realize that with what the men have gone through, it's anyone's game (right now).

Furthermore, I think the drama and cattyness and pathetic naps are in there to throw us. Cuz like MOST people, I would have fired the lazy butt sleeping on the job or the BIATCH who causes problems. However this is Donald Trump....and he has kept us on the edge for the last two shows.

[madmax]

Sam looks like the guy from the tv show Monk.

[Rain Man]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
Uhhh Rain Man did you not see Sam fall asleep on the table, and then move to the floor "in fetal position" WHILE they were trying to work on the advertisement? How the hell is that business savvy and why does he deserve to be looked at "objectively"?

Keep in mind two things:

A. Jason (the project manager) did not give Sam anything substantive to do during that time--it was Jason's responsibility to keep Sam occupied during that time.

B. Mr. Trump explained in no uncertain terms that the project manager would be held at least partially responsible for the failure of the losing team.

Granted, while Sam lying in the fetal position on national TV didn't present him in the most positive light during the competition, it was, all things considered, by far the lesser of three evils. Jason, while much more likable and sociable, failed as project manager for neglecting to execute a critical aspect of the project and thus deserved to be eliminated.

Again, the elimination is not based on trivial personal axes to grind, it is about business and professional saavy, which is why I like this reality show over others.

Sorry, but I got to be candid on this matter.

[Rain Man]

Originally posted by DeltaBetaBaby
I wish that they hadn't gone men vs. women.

I think it would have been a much better show if the teams were "MBA educated" vs. "learned in the real world."

Excellent point! Good observation.

I am getting the disturbing message that in order to succeed in business, you have to "sell sex". The wins by the women's team made that very clear. I would like to see a more objective competition based on intuitive and instinctive knowledge, not merely gender-oriented knowledge. Had Mr. Trump split up the groups like you said, it would have made for a PERFECT objective competitive reality show and I would like to think he originally would've wanted it that way. The only reason that he may have split it by sex was that it would've made for a more drama-oriented show (read: whoring for ratings so NBC can pat him on the head and say, "Good boy").

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Okay, when Sam got fired, I seriously thought he was going to FLIP OUT. Good for Trump, though.

Is there somebody hooking up? I thought I caught that in the previews, but there was no mention tonight, unless I missed it.

[AXO_MOM_3]

Originally posted by DeltaBetaBaby
Okay, when Sam got fired, I seriously thought he was going to FLIP OUT. Good for Trump, though.

He was scarey looking! He looked like if he had a weapon handy he might have used it!

[angelic1]

I thought the same thing about Sam when they fired him. I thought he was going to reach across the table and grab him or somthing.. he looked crazy. I was just laughing at his reaction.

He will be on the today show i think tomorrow.. i think it will be interesting to hear what he says.. glad he isnt on the show anymore bc he was annoying to watch.

[DWAlphaGam]

Sam looked EVIL. Thank goodness he's gone, now maybe the guys can win for once. I think the women need to be knocked down a couple of notches.


Troy getting his legs waxed was priceless.