GreekChat.com Forums  

Go Back   GreekChat.com Forums > General Chat Topics > Dating & Relationships

» GC Stats
Members: 329,739
Threads: 115,667
Posts: 2,205,087
Welcome to our newest member, aellajunioro603
» Online Users: 1,960
0 members and 1,960 guests
No Members online
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-18-2003, 10:05 AM
rainbowbrightCS rainbowbrightCS is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Georgia
Posts: 1,050
thanks both of you. I will see him tonight I will tell him I will be at church at which mass. I will also flirt with him and tell him how smart he is. and Oh, I got a new graphing caclulator and I will ask him to show me how to use it. I think he likes me. I *heart* southern boys!

Chris
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-18-2003, 12:00 PM
FAB*SpiceySpice FAB*SpiceySpice is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: My heart will always be down in the ZOU!!!
Posts: 2,352
Quote:
Originally posted by cashmoney
Fab-

I've been there on wanting to be with two people at once. Its hard to decide what to do. I think the reason why you want to be with your ex is because you two are still friends and still close ( to an extent). The friendship that formed while you two were dating has created a place for him in your heart. Thats why you want to be there for him, you still care about him very much. I'm the same way with an ex of mine. We still talk as good friends and she's even sent me baby pics of her older sisters son she just had. I'd break my back for that chick. Still, us being together in the future just isnt gonna happen. I think you should be there for your ex during his issue and help him through this time. But be there as his friend I wouldn't get romanticly involved if i were you. If the two of you arent dating now, you dont need to get romanticly involved with this guy while he's going through this serious stuff.

Now, about S.......

Its sounds to me like he just wants you to be his phuck buddy but doesnt want to offically label whats going on between you two because of a comitment. Look at it like this, him being like that means he can be with another girl behind your back and not feel guilty about it since you two arent dating. At the same time, you're probably his main girl and therefore doesnt want you to be messing around with other guys. Thats why he gets jealous. This guy sounds like he's a pimp, and he's making you look bad by not dating you while still hooking up with you all the time while you want some sort of a relationship. It really depends on what you want. If you want a relationship, leave S.......you're not gonna get it from him as of now. If you like him that much and want him in your life and the two of you not dating doesnt bother you...then stay with him.


Hope I helped.



Cash-

Hey hon, thanks for the advice. I have not talked to S since late late late Friday night b/c when I called and asked my mom for advice (I know wtf was I thinking?! ) she pretty much said that if she found out I was with him then she didn't want me in her life. Needless to say she DOESN'T like him. So yea that make's everything even more confusing.

I hung out with D on Sat. night and then last night too. We're not dating but I would not be thrilled if he had another girl in his life and I know he feels the same if I had another guy in my life. He asked me to his fraternities Christmas party last night and obviously I am going to go. Part of me wanted to take him as my semiformal date and part of me ewanted to take S, but I know I will end up either not going or taking D b/c I do not have one single friend that likes S and they would all be major bitches to him the entire time! Oy.

Ok thanks again for the advice.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-18-2003, 12:17 PM
GeekyPenguin GeekyPenguin is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 9,971
OK, here's a fun one for you:

How can I send off unavailable signals to guys I've known forever? They know my life situation right now so it should be blatantly clear that I do not want to date them, and they just don't get it!!!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-18-2003, 12:23 PM
Rio_Kohitsuji Rio_Kohitsuji is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Dunedin, FL
Posts: 2,111
Okay Cashmoney.....

I've been dating my current boyfriend for over 2 years now. D recently went through a "revelation" in which now he wants to bring our relationship to the next-next level, that is engagement. But here's the thing, he's told me two different things...it'll be 2 years til he can afford the ring he wants to buy me (it's between 3 and 5 grand) but then again he's said that I will not know at all when he'll "pop the question". So it'll be a complete surprise. But, he's getting ready to sell his baby (a solid white 92 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX Turbo fully equiped complete with custom ground effects and rims) But he really doesn't need to, he's just said that he needs a safer and more economical car...yeah. But here's another thing, he needs to pay off some tuition and also living expenses but he's just giving me 2 different messages. He's showing me stones and asking which I prefer (we'll be ring shopping here next week) but then he's saying he needs to pay off a crapload worth od debt. I'm getting too confused.

So, what'yda think?
__________________
Lambda Omicron Psi Alumna
University of Rio Grande
Proud wife of a Rho Pi TKE!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-18-2003, 12:28 PM
HotDamnImAPhiMu HotDamnImAPhiMu is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,190
Send a message via Yahoo to HotDamnImAPhiMu
thanks cash.
__________________
One person can save the lives of seven people and improve the lives of over 50.
Register to be an organ and tissue donor. Donate life.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-19-2003, 04:04 AM
cashmoney cashmoney is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: $outh Beach
Posts: 4,231
Quote:
Originally posted by chideltjen
Here is my issue.

I AM EVERY MAN'S BEST FRIEND! I have tons of guy friends. I love hanging out with them. Most of my co workers are guys and I go out to lunch with a few of them almost every day (and i am generally the only girl to go with them). When I go to bars and clubs, I have my girls there, but I will also have a few guy friends there and tend to enjoy hanging out with them more. Some of my guy friends know secrets my girl friends don't know. Basically, I am the girl friend, but never the girlfriend. My guy friends don't see me more than that. I have had small crushes on friends but they never worked out. Some I stayed friends with and others I don't speak to. But I need help. I haven't been on a date in almost a year and I am always scared of going into the dating situation only to give off a friends/lil sister vibe. What am I doing wrong?
A lil background on me: my last LT relationship ended almost 2 years ago. My ex was emotionally abusive and probably cheated on me. (Still TBD but i honestly wouldn't want to know.) Most of the guys I have dated since then have turned sour. Either I don't speak to them or something like that.

Wow! You're a rare thing these days. In case you havent figured out why you have a lot of guy friends, it's because you probably don't b!tch that much....do you? Think about it, what are the two main reasons why guys quit dating chicks? 1. We find someone else that looks better or 2. The girl b!tches too much. I'm assuming you're a decent looking girl, right? Most guys don't like having cool ugly chicks around them, that explains why its very rare for a girl to have basically all guy friends.

You've actually got it really good. Obviously you're a cool girl to hang out with since a lot of guys like you. Now all you need to do is start up a game with who ever you want. You probably need to flirt with some of those guys and act like a b!tch a little more.


I wouldn't be trying to hook up with my friends if I were you. I'd go out and find guys that don't have any idea who my other guy friends are (If you're anything like me, thats harder than what ya think). In my college crew we have 9 guys and 1 girl who are my close friends. All but one of us randomly met in 1998, my freshman year. The chick in our group is like how you are to your guy friends, she's one of us. We know every thing she's ever done, she's the female version of us. And thats the reason why none of us would ever date her despite some of us having sex with her. I kid with her all the time and tell her she's got a dirty clit. There was a time where she was bouncing around with half of us in our crew. After awhile I realize she finally figured out why none of us would date her, we just knew too much about her to want to date her. This could be the case with you having problems dating guy friends.



I'd also like to add, I don't think you should be going out looking for a boyfriend. He'll come to you, just have fun right now. Just make sure the guys know you're available. All too often a guy isnt reading the signals right. There has been many times where I thought a chick was just wanting to be friends, who I liked, and it turned out she actually wanted to date. I totally didnt read them right, their friends eventually clued me in.



Things will get better. There are a lot of guys out there that would love to snatch you up. You just need to go out more and meet a bunch of guys. If any of them start liking you more as a freind...just move on to another.


Let me know how things go.



Cash-
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-19-2003, 04:14 AM
cashmoney cashmoney is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: $outh Beach
Posts: 4,231
Quote:
Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
OK, here's a fun one for you:

How can I send off unavailable signals to guys I've known forever? They know my life situation right now so it should be blatantly clear that I do not want to date them, and they just don't get it!!!





GeekyPenguin-


Forever? Like 5 yrs, 10 yrs? If they're really close to you and you've known them for more than 4-6 yrs, sit them down or see them in person and ask them if they like you/wanna date you. If they say no, you'll feel dumb for thinking they liked you. If they say yes, then proceed to tell them that you are so glad that you two are friends and that you would rather keep him has a close friend than date him and risk loosing the friendship.

If they are not close friends and you've been friends with them for 1,2,3 yrs......make yourself more scarce for the time being. Don't see them for a little while. They'll start getting upset. Just act like you've been really busy lately. Then wait a week after they say something about not seeing you in awhile, call them up and spend some time with them on the phone. Have a long conversation. Make it one of those "I'm so glad that you're my friend" conversations. Them tell them you're glad the two of you have never hooked up or did anything and stayed friends. He'll get the picture clearly.


Hope I helped.



Cashmoney-
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-19-2003, 04:33 AM
cashmoney cashmoney is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: $outh Beach
Posts: 4,231
Quote:
Originally posted by TKE209Sweethrt
Okay Cashmoney.....

I've been dating my current boyfriend for over 2 years now. D recently went through a "revelation" in which now he wants to bring our relationship to the next-next level, that is engagement. But here's the thing, he's told me two different things...it'll be 2 years til he can afford the ring he wants to buy me (it's between 3 and 5 grand) but then again he's said that I will not know at all when he'll "pop the question". So it'll be a complete surprise. But, he's getting ready to sell his baby (a solid white 92 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX Turbo fully equiped complete with custom ground effects and rims) But he really doesn't need to, he's just said that he needs a safer and more economical car...yeah. But here's another thing, he needs to pay off some tuition and also living expenses but he's just giving me 2 different messages. He's showing me stones and asking which I prefer (we'll be ring shopping here next week) but then he's saying he needs to pay off a crapload worth od debt. I'm getting too confused.

So, what'yda think?




That Eclipse sounds tight!



Honestly, I think you're moving way too quick. You've been dating for 2 yrs and already picking out rings. If you want to be married only once ( which I think you're that type of girl), I suggest you date this guy a little longer.


Now, my response to the actual situation. I think you should sit him down and have a talk with him. You need to tell him that you don't want him to buy you a ring yet until he's paid off his debt and taken care of his finances. Explain to him that you don't want to start in debt. I think he's gonna sell his "baby" inorder to pay off the tuition and living expenses, then get a new car that doesn't cost him too much to keep up ( I'm sure he puts a lot of money into that car to keep it looking tight). He'll be doing all that while saving money to buy you a ring. He's getting his $hit together in preping for you. It could be anytime after he gets his new car.


Keep me posted on his actions.


Cash-
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-19-2003, 09:41 AM
ZTAngel ZTAngel is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The beach
Posts: 7,948
Cash-

I'm just curious what you're thoughts are. How long do you think a couple should date before getting married? What do you think is the appropriate amount of time for a couple to get to know each other pre-nuptials? Don't worry...I'm not asking for myself (I probably have another 3 to 4 years before my boyfriend is done with his doctorate so I've got a while). Just wondering in general what you think.
__________________
ZTA
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-19-2003, 04:17 PM
AchtungBaby80 AchtungBaby80 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Lexington, KY, USA
Posts: 3,185
Send a message via ICQ to AchtungBaby80 Send a message via AIM to AchtungBaby80 Send a message via Yahoo to AchtungBaby80
AchtungBaby80's Dating Advice...

Cashmoney, if you will relinquish your thread for just a moment...

This is in response to TKE209Sweethrt's and ZTAngel's posts...I really don't think it matters how long two people date before they decide to get engaged (well, unless it's a ridiculously short time, like 2 weeks or something...but a lot of people did that in WWII and it turned out just fine). My mom and my stepdad knew each other for 6 months--and dated for less time than that--when they got married, and they've been married for over 18 years. They were ready to get married, so they got married. I, on the other hand, have been close to engagement on two separate occasions after seeing the guys for a little under 2 years and a little over 2 years respectively, and I ended up running away from it. (Before you go pointing your finger and calling me commitment-phobic, I'd just like you to know that I prefer to call it "waiting for the right man." ) My father and my stepmother dated for 14 years, I kid you not, and he just announced a couple weeks ago that they are going to divorce. So you see, the length of time you date someone isn't a good predictor of whether or not you should marry and whether you'll stay together or not...it depends more on the readiness of the parties involved.

OK, Cashmoney, you can have your thread back.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-19-2003, 04:30 PM
HotDamnImAPhiMu HotDamnImAPhiMu is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,190
Send a message via Yahoo to HotDamnImAPhiMu
Yeah, but with kids our age? Too many of us are too stupid! I know a couple that's engaged after 6 months of dating. That's so, so short at this age.

I agree, if you're ready you're ready. And there's something to be said about a long engagement period.
__________________
One person can save the lives of seven people and improve the lives of over 50.
Register to be an organ and tissue donor. Donate life.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-20-2003, 12:02 AM
cashmoney cashmoney is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: $outh Beach
Posts: 4,231
Re: AchtungBaby80's Dating Advice...

Quote:
Originally posted by AchtungBaby80
Cashmoney, if you will relinquish your thread for just a moment...


OK, Cashmoney, you can have your thread back.


Its Ok, miss I love to hijack Craig's threads.





ZTAngel-


My opinion is a little different than Achtungbaby80's. I think you should date someone for at least 3-4 yrs inorder to fully know them, what they're like, what their habits are. This way you get to fully see what annoys you about them, their issues you can/can't handle, how they deal with things/situations, etc etc etc. Anything less han 3 years, you're taking a chance of not fully knowing them. I don't know about a lot of people, but having been in the relationships I've been in and gone through the stuff I have....I realize the importance of not rushing into things that can affect you for life. I think a common misconception many people have is that they think they are ready, but they're really not. Fortunately I'm one of those people who can set his passion and heated love aside and tell myself that I need to wait a while before making a big decision such as something like marriage, no matter how much I love/wanna be with the lady in question. Its called having common sense and thinking logically, its something a lot of people don't have and can't do!

Also, there's something you have to understand about Achtungbabys example. The people she's mentioned were her parents. Apparently they arent together anymore and both divorced, and they found new spouses. Now her dad is splitting up with #2. I think her dad has problems based on splitting up with two women. Obviously her mom is fine, she's been married for over 18 yrs. I'm wondering if both her parents had dated for awhile her mom would have figured out her dad has issues and woulda been together at all? That said, time probably would have made all the difference. Now, this is of course assuming both of her biological parents were married and she wasn't born out of wedlock ( you don't have to answer that achtung). If her bio-parents were never married.....I'll have to fill you in on that can of worms and my view on it.


Here's an example from my life:

My parents have been married going on 26 yrs. And it hasnt been all peachy. Based on my thoughts in the first paragraph, my own parents could prove me wrong in a sense. My mom and dad dated for 9 months and got married. They're still married. There were a lot of things about each of them that the other learned that happened after they were married. Stuff each of them just had to deal with. Stuff they woulda been better off knowing before marriage and probably wouldn't have got married had they learned them beforehand. Yet, they still loved each other. As a child I remember things always being fairy tale like on having the perfect childhood. My dad was always my football coach each year from age 6-14 until I entered middle school. My mother always took me shopping with her and showed me off to her friends, she taught me to have a sense of fashion. My dad would take me fishing with him out in the ocean and we'd go air boating in the Everglades. I had a good chilhood. However, during my 10th grade year in highschool shit almost went down the tube. My mom busted my dad cheating on her, red handed chillin with the woman. Its a long story on why it ended up happening. When I found out my dad had an affair, thats when I realized how different from each other they were. Fortunately they ended up reconciling and both of them changed the way they were inorder to make things work and hold our family together. My mom changed what she was doing wrong and my dad quit cheating on her. It is my belief that had they dated for a long enough of a period of time, they wouldn't have went through the crap they did because they would have seen their differences eventually. Fortunately for our family they ended up not getting divorced. Most families are not as lucky. And I think it largely had to do with my mom changing more than my dad. My mom has been through some crap in her marriage, sometimes when I think about it I feel bad for her. After seeing some of the stuff she's went though and watching how it affected her, I don't ever want to put my future wife through any of that. Thats why I say its important to make sure you know the other person better than they know themselves. And you need to make sure that is absolutly what you want for life. And only spending a large amount of time with the other person will be able to determine whether or not you two should be married. Granted, people do change with time. But based on past experiences of my life and the lives of others, I think a long period of dating someone is what is needed.



Hope I helped-

Craig




BTW- Have any of you ever had boyfriends that cheated on you and then you later found out that his dad did it to his wife and his gradnfather did it to his wife? Can cheating on your spouse be genetic? I'm getting worried about that. The reason being because I've cheated on many ex-GFs of mine. I'm wondering if my genetic makeup is what causes that. I don't do it anymore, but I'm still worried about it.

Last edited by cashmoney; 11-20-2003 at 12:10 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-20-2003, 12:27 AM
AchtungBaby80 AchtungBaby80 is offline
GreekChat Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Lexington, KY, USA
Posts: 3,185
Send a message via ICQ to AchtungBaby80 Send a message via AIM to AchtungBaby80 Send a message via Yahoo to AchtungBaby80
Re: Re: AchtungBaby80's Dating Advice...

Quote:
Originally posted by cashmoney
I'm wondering if both her parents had dated for awhile her mom would have figured out her dad has issues and woulda been together at all? That said, time probably would have made all the difference. Now, this is of course assuming both of her biological parents were married and she wasn't born out of wedlock ( you don't have to answer that achtung).
My parents did exactly what you would've approved of...they dated for about 4 years before getting married. Neither were married before. And they got divorced. So really, how long you date doesn't matter.

Quote:
Can cheating on your spouse be genetic?
No. Cheating is a learned behavior. People learn by example set by parents, peers, etc. Thus, cheating is not "genetic"...how a person deals with relationships is affected by the ways in which the people they are in contact with behave. Either that, or there is a totally different, deeply-rooted issue at work here...low self-esteem, fear of rejection, etc. I've been to many shrinks in my day, and this is what I have learned.

Last edited by AchtungBaby80; 11-20-2003 at 12:29 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-20-2003, 12:31 AM
cashmoney cashmoney is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: $outh Beach
Posts: 4,231
Re: Re: Re: AchtungBaby80's Dating Advice...

Quote:
Originally posted by AchtungBaby80
People learn by example set by parents, peers, etc. Thus, cheating is not "genetic"...how a person deals with relationships is affected by the ways in which the people they are in contact with behave. I've been to many shrinks in my day, and this is what I have learned.

Well, that does make sense. Most of my close friends that I hung out with while I was the cheating boyfriend were also cheating on thier GFs. I don't see those friends as much anymore and havent cheated on a GF in over 1 1/2 yrs.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-20-2003, 12:32 AM
cashmoney cashmoney is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: $outh Beach
Posts: 4,231
Re: Re: Re: AchtungBaby80's Dating Advice...

Quote:
Originally posted by AchtungBaby80
My parents did exactly what you would've approved of...they dated for about 4 years before getting married. Neither were married before. And they got divorced. So really, how long you date doesn't matter.

Yea, but how old were they when they got married? Were they around 19,20,21?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:05 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.