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Old 07-17-2002, 01:19 AM
librasoul22 librasoul22 is offline
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Re: Come on

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First of all you aren't asking any questions I haven't already answered so why do you keep repeating yourself. How about this you read then write.

Won't sound like such and idiot. Told you i don't repeat myself.
Tell you what. If you have come on here to represent your org in a positive light, you are doing a very poor job of it. I suggest you send a representative with a better grasp on your org's history so that HE may start a question/answer thread and give insightful and thought-provoking answers instead of idle banter and insults. Thanks.
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Old 07-17-2002, 01:24 AM
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please

From what I can see due to the speed of your posts you haven't went back and read what I said previously so it is obvious that all you have to do with your time is try to start arguements on the interenet. You "supposed" to be a grown college educated women and you still have nothing to do but argue on the internet. I'm above that. and I will say I am above you and I WILL NOT address your childish anticts again so take your pathetic self to http://www.highschoolclub.com where there are plenty of people on your intellectual level. ONE
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Old 07-17-2002, 01:26 AM
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Re: please

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From what I can see due to the speed of your posts you haven't went back and read what I said previously so it is obvious that all you have to do with your time is try to start arguemtns on the interenet. You "supposed" to be a grown college educated women and you still have nothing to do but argue on the internet. I'm above that. and I will say I am above you and I WILL NOT address your childish anticts again so take your pathetic self to http://www.highschoolclub.com where there are plenty of people on your intellectual level. ONE
lol.

The only idoitic one is you, joining an org that claims to be a different entity than a GLO yet adopting the VERY charateristics that make GLO's unique! Sorry you got rejected from a BGLO, but insulting me and my intelligence won't help you.

btw, I actually have gone back and read each of your posts for a hint of accuracy...but alas, there is none. And I am going to stop asking you to answer my question. You obviously can't.

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Old 07-17-2002, 04:02 AM
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well said soror showstopper!!! i couldn't have said it better myself!!! and for all of you out there who are confused about AFRICA and EGYPT please read "Exploring the myths vol 1...Nile Valley contributions to Civilization" by scholar Dr. Anthony T. Browder. it will clear up a lot of confusion. A very interesting part is when King Akhenaton is considered to be deformed because of his facial features...because of his nose...lips...and facial structure. basically he looks like an AFRICAN so he must be deformed??? I find the "semite" theory interesting...but i've read the books and retaught myself because of all the years of MISEDUCATION i have received!!!

what bro. cardiac is trying to say is...give credit where credit is due and learn your history b/c it is not just black history...it's everyone's history!!! I feel what you are saying and respect your org....i know a lot of good men of GROOVE!!! good luck with educating these folks on here!!!

-just 2 convinced

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Old 07-17-2002, 08:38 AM
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If you don't consider your group a fraternity or "greek", why feel the need to post on a fraternity/sorority forum or start a thread at all??
I was wondering the same thing. But it seems there will never be an answer to this question.
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Old 07-17-2002, 08:48 AM
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One of the mysteries of life...LOL
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Old 07-17-2002, 12:49 PM
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Obeservant and Eaglechick

SOmeone inquired about my organization and I started this thread saying if anyone has questions feel free to ask. Thats why this thread was started. If you don't like that i'm here now, that's your problem. Ok


Justconvinced thatnks for the comments, what school do you go to.
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Old 07-17-2002, 01:06 PM
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Please state where in my post where I stated my problem with you being here. You aren't fraternal or greek, but you do greek actions-line names, stepping, etc. Hey if you want to be partially down, do your thing.

As a male you shouldn't be so touchy.
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Old 07-17-2002, 01:15 PM
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Listsen shorty touchy ain't got nothing to do with it. Like I told Whatever her name is before you. Read all my posts before you keep askin me the same questions.

You know what for the sake of arguement I will repeat myself.
As far as "copying" from Greek lettered orgs. The idea of have lines with nummbers and such came from masons so if we copy anyone it would be them. And as far Stepping, we step because it's of African Tradition and my brotherhood seeks to encompass as many different aspects of our African American and African culture as possible.

And as far as being partially down, please. On my yard everyone has always known me and I was invited to interest meetings for every organization that was active on my yard. I choose Groove cause It embodies all the things I have always been about. I honestly could care less if any other brotherhoods or sisterhoods like mine cause I pledged for myself and I pledged Groove not them. I ain't tryin to offend no one but that's how it is.
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Old 07-17-2002, 01:23 PM
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Please state where in my post where I stated my problem with you being here. You aren't fraternal or greek, but you do greek actions-line names, stepping, etc. Hey if you want to be partially down, do your thing.

As a male you shouldn't be so touchy.
That's real!

Cardiac, I am not challenging you for the fun of it, I am trying to see what logic your org is based on. You all seem to admonish the Greek system for basing its symbols and ceremonies on other cultures, yet you do the same exact thing.

Just trying to find some clarity... lose the insecurity, sweetheart.

Word to the wise: don't start a thread offering to answer any questions about your org if you are not informed enough to do so. That way you won't have to get sensitive or defensive, and you won't have to resort to childish name-calling. Thanks.
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Old 07-17-2002, 01:30 PM
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Just a little history lesson...

The theory about Egyptians being Semites is wrong. Maybe someone was misinformed or confused but that just isn't fact. The Semites are a group of ancient people who lived in the Middle East and North Africa who spoke a Semitic language. The Semites are supposedly descendents of Shem, Noah's son from the bible. The Hebrews were in fact Semites, so that alone shows that Egyptians were not. The Egytians hieroglyphics sp? is a Hammito-Semitic language but they already had this language and culture long before the Semites came somewhere as early as 2500 bc. Actually, the Hammito-Semitic language has its origin in Africa because only there can all of its componets be found.
As far as their being a difference between African and Semitic culture, please explain since many Semites lived in N. Africa and probably came from their. Africa is a diverse continent and it does none of us justice to ASSume that all Africans look or act the same or have the same culture/religion. This is what I felt was implied veiwing several of the post. As far as Cardiac, he was just telling people about his brotherhood and I respect that. IF anyone was misinforming people about yoru respetive fraternities, I think, most of you would have done the same thing. I am not even going to touch on the everything being stolen from Africa theory because I biased. My ancestors were so you know...

IF I have offended anyone I am sorry I only wrote this because I kept hearing there is this big difference between Africans and Semites and I still dont know what that big difference is. Any information I have written can be found at enclyopedia.com

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Old 07-17-2002, 02:50 PM
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History can be a very deceiving tool, because it is far from standardized. If you check Queen Elizabeth's calendar, you probably won't find an entry for July 4th. Why? Well, it holds no significance to Britain. To us, it is everything. Ask an AKA and a Delta about the founding of the latter's organization, and you'll probably get two very different accounts. Sometimes, history is in the eye of the beholder. Thus arguing with someone else's concept of historical facts can be almost redundant, since everyone is mostly right, yet nobody is completely correct, in a sense. Feel me?
For example, to the average person, Abe Lincoln was a hero. I, however, beg to differ for a number of reasons, some of which Cardiac touched upon. I doubt that I could convince his peeps and descendants otherwise. It's all in what you believe.
However, to say stuff is "stolen" is kinda stretching it. Yes, through the years, stuff has been appropriated from cultures, but I will not use the term "steal". To me, that is another way of warping history, and remaking facts into opinions. There is so much info out there, that will be dormant if we don't find it. There is so much stuff black people will never understand about white, and vice-versa.
Anyway, let's get reasonable people. My girl Librasoul does deserve an apology. And Cardiac, how do you guys manage to expand, and attract new members? What are the main benefits of membership? How did you get involved with Groove Phi Groove?
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Old 07-17-2002, 03:03 PM
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As far as beinging stolen, when you go to a country murder, murder their people, destory their cities and then pretend they never existed you stole something. Same with slavery I think that that word alone doesn't allow people to really comprehend the gravity of what really happened. It was way more then just stealin people from a country and making them work for free. What I am saying is that the conqueerers of Africa did way more then just borrow knowledge and leave.

And as far as oweing anyone anything, no. I'm way beyond that name calling and what not so i'm moving on and pretending she doesn't exist. I think she should do the same for me.


I got involved with Groove cause I used to see their members doing stuff on campus and I was in the Organization of Students of African Unity so we used to do services with them occasionally.
The benefits of a membership in my organization are too numberous to list and some indescribable but I will tell you a few. You know that no matter what else is going on in your life you got a bro behind you who got your back, I travel way more then I would have without Groove, I met bros from alot of different fields so the networking is great, I use my organization as a tool to assist in my personal goal which is the mentoring of young black Men and women, I have alot of fun........

Honestly I can't really describe all that it is to be a Groove,
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Old 07-17-2002, 03:08 PM
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Cardiac, I wasn't make fun of you or your org.! Don't be so touchy!
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Old 07-17-2002, 03:17 PM
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Cardiac, believe me, I understand what you are saying, first hand. Sadly, the greatest tragedy of the slave trade was not the forced relocation and physical rape of our people. Thus, in that sense, your use of the word makes sense. The intellectual losses can almost never be recouped.
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