Is a "Pimps and Ho's Party" disrepectful???

[SATX*APhi]

One of the fraternities back at school had a Pimps and Hoes Party. The following week, the school paper had pictures on the front cover. Well, the editor-in-chief was almost removed from his position because he allowed these perfectly decent photos to be placed in our school paper. (BTW, I go to a private, Catholic university) Sooo, I guess it all depends on who, what, where, when, etc.

[thesweetestone]

Originally posted by phikappapsiman
I have yet to see a Pimp portrayed in the media or in Hollywood as anything but an African-American male without any redeeming qualities, so yes, I do find it disrespectful, racist, and not needed. Who knows? Maybe there are White pimps, Asian pimps, Hispanic pimps, whatever out there, but I have yet to see one (except for Heidi Fleiss, and I guess you couldn't really call her a pimp).

Ho's and pimps have nothing to do with race. Don't allow people to label you or your race as something you are not. Pimps and ho's are a part of all cultures and races. Hollywood is hollywood. Hollywood is not real life. Pimps are not exclusively black. Blacks are not exclusively pimps and ho's. No one race has a monopoly on that.

[AOX81]

Originally posted by lovelyivy84
All the attitude was not even necessary. Check thyself por favor.

There was no attitude. I was just responding to a post.

Check thyself? Who made you all high and mighty?

Anyway, have a great day everyone

[starang21]

but who do these people get their inspiration from? who do they imitate? yes, this type of party can be seen as racist.

[dzrose93]

We had one at my school... but it was called "Deer Hunters and Their Wives"... guys in camoflauge and the girls in curlers, housecoats, etc.

It was fun, and I don't think anyone was offended.

[Serenity]

I would never participate in one of these parties. I just could not bring myself to do it. NOT AT ALL. In my neighborhood, calling someone a hoe is fighting words. I don't know anyone who would feel comfortable enough to step into a sorority/fraternity party in "hoe gear" just cuz everyone else thought it was cool/funny/acceptable. But hey, to each his own.

If organizations really want to have a party and dress up in this manner, then they should simply come up with a better name than "Pimps and Hoes". IMO, that theme lacks creativity and is just plain tacky.

[RUgreek]

I guess I'm living on planet x because I sincerely do not see a distinct association with pimps and hoes to the african-american or any other specific group as people are commenting. I don't mean to be disrespectful to any group, but I suppose I didn't face these types of problems being in such a multi-cultural fraternity. Our brotherhood, I can safely say, hit every ethnic group during my time there. Sure we'd joke around and make tasteless jokes, but nothing was ever disrespectful to any person or group.

Having said that, I think everyone here is only upset with this theme because the title is shocking. I saw it as short and catchy; some of you saw it as racist and disrespectful. I apologize if I offended anyone with my opinions, but I can't seem to figure out what it is that triggers in your mind those words as racist. I must of missed those movies, cause I've seen whorehouses, postitutes, and yes, the pimps portrayed by all types of people (what a lovely subject we've gotten into here).

Anyways, I can understand now that just people and cultures are more or less sensitive to different things for different reasons. But let me ask this, if someone like me, who never had intentions of offending a group and my house had such a party and everyone had a great time dressing up and partying, how are we being disrespectful? Because I don't think it's fair to automatically assume something is being disrespectful unless the people doing it are intending that sort of reaction. Just my thought, and I think that's the thought of the people who throw these parties. Otherwise, what kind of fun is it to have a party that gets people upset?

- RUgreek

[Dove Gal]

As myself being a African American I can see where phikappapsiman is coming from. Even though hollywood is hollywood and yes African Amercians have gotten a bad name from being pimps. Don't just look at moveis, look at the media, and enteraniers such as rappers that portray themselves as being pimps and proud of it. I might be going out on a limb here but I think that some of you might just focus on the movie aspect with pimps and hoes theme.

I remember a few years ago on HBO (I think). They had this special about the pimp of the year. For those who have never heard it let me explain. Every year in Chicago all the pimps come out with their hoes to Chicago. The pimps are dressed up in alligator shoes flashy 70's pimped out suits. Gold chains, wathces, rings, and anything else you can think of. Some of these pimps will also bring their cars. I mean these cars are nice, I will give them that. But basically the pimp of the year is the one who has the most hoes (females), money, and the best style of dress. This event is very disrespectful to all females sometimes by they way these feamles are portrayed. Because they are hardly wearing any clothes, heck most of the time they are not wearing anything but their birthday suit. The bad thing about this is, that some of these rappers are there known for their pimpin lyrics are there helping to support this event. The thing that makes me the maddest is that about 99% of these pimps and hoes (females) are African American! Yes, there is about 1% that is a minority in this field. Wheter they are Asian, Latino, white, or it is a female pimp. They are considered a minority in the pimpin lifestyle. That is why African Americans get a bad rap for being known as pimps. This is only how I feel about it. Not all African Americans feel the same way I do, this is just how I feel. I cannot speak for all African Americans, just myself.

That is why I will never undrestand how any female would be able to go to a mixers with the pimps and hoes theme. I feel that we as females are being degraded. The way I think about is that how these pimps got all their money and material things were from a women who go out and do sexual acts for money! When they go back to their pimp they get majority of their money. For all the hard work they did.

I will never support a theme like this.

Sigma Kappa
One Heart, One way

[RUgreek]

Ok, one last thing I want to say here. I realize the first thing people do is relate Pimp=Male and Ho=Female, but this is a greek party theme, remember... If it was the guys dressing as the hoe's (I believe Gigalo is the PC term) and the ladies were dressed as the pimps (i.e. Madame's) is it still disrespectful? Because I gotta tell you, and maybe this would have been better to point out earlier, but everyone goes to this party however they want, and that's what makes it hilarious and fun for all.

Nobody said you had to be one-sided and not creative; that's the whole point of an original party event. All things being equal, everyone can dress however they choose. Not all ho's must dress a specific way, it's open to anyone's interpretation. Break the barriers of stereotypes and just make something wild and fun for everyone.

- RUgreek

[lovelyivy84]

Originally posted by AOX81


There was no attitude. I was just responding to a post.

Check thyself? Who made you all high and mighty?

Anyway, have a great day everyone

All those lovely eye rolls were not necessary. If you want anyone to take your posts seriously you should show the respect you're given.

But obviously I'm wasting my time here.

[AOX81]

Originally posted by lovelyivy84


All those lovely eye rolls were not necessary. If you want anyone to take your posts seriously you should show the respect you're given.

But obviously I'm wasting my time here.

First of all I don't really care if you or anyone disagrees with my opinion.

Second, yes, obviously you are wasting your time here. I'm not here to change your opinion and you are definitely not going to change mine.

"All those lovely eye rolls? I did it once...give me a friggin' break.

Have a nice day

[Dionysus]

Take it outside girls , anyways back on topic......

After reading these additional posts, I am going back to my origional opinion. P&H parties are disrespectful. Ya know, think of someone having a "Master and Slave Party". I think the two are on a similar wavelengths. Some things just aren't necessary imitating.

[thesweetestone]

Originally posted by Dionysus
Take it outside girls , anyways back on topic......

After reading these additional posts, I am going back to my origional opinion. P&H parties are disrespectful. Ya know, think of someone having a "Master and Slave Party". I think the two are on a similar wavelengths. Some things just aren't necessary imitating.

Wrong!! Even if most pimps and ho's were black a p&h party is not disrespectful to blacks. Basically because prostitution is not tradition or a value that black people hold dear to them. A black person might have coined the term but hoes have been around since the beginning of time. From what it sounds like a p&h party is just a 70's party.

[Dionysus]

Originally posted by thesweetestone


Wrong!! Even if most pimps and ho's were black a p&h party is not disrespectful to blacks. Basically because prostitution is not tradition or a value that black people hold dear to them. A black person might have coined the term but hoes have been around since the beginning of time. From what it sounds like a p&h party is just a 70's party.

Huh?

I think you missed my point. I'm not talking about P&H in relation of African Americans. I'm talking about it in relation of oppression and disrespect to women.

The point I am trying to make is that IMO having a P&H party is almost as disrespectful to women, as having a "Master and Slave" parties is disrespectful to blacks. I just used that as an analogy and example. Catch my drift?

Think about the Auburn University incident, last Halloween. Their event was "supposedly" to be a fun thing, according to them, that is.

[thesweetestone]

Still slaves and hoes are very different. No woman is born into prostitution. Prostitution is not nationally legal. Woman have a choice slaves didn't. Women have rights slaves didn't. I don't see a comparion. Sorry.