NALFO/NPC

[PersistentDST]

Originally Posted by Jinxy13

I've looked all over GC and I haven't found a thread that answers this.

I went through formal recruitment at my school and ended up getting dropped from all the houses. I still really wanted to join a sorority for the sisterhood, and I pledged and was initiated into a NALFO sorority (I will not go into which one) and thought I would fit better there because I am Latina.

After a semester of being in it, I realized that it was not a good fit for me and ended up disaffiliating.

Currently there is a colonizing NPC sorority on my campus that I'm interested in. I know that I could potentially pledge this sorority and it would be allowed, technically, since the other sorority is not NPC. My question is if the sisters in the colonizing sorority would have a problem with it. Since it was not an NPC sorority and I have valid reasons for disaffiliating, do you think that would hurt my chances and the sisters would look down on that? Even if they don't ask, should I take it upon myself to tell them I was previously affiliated with a multicultural sorority or should I keep it to myself if they don't ask?

I only have this concern because they are on the same campus. Please let me know your thoughts.

I asked a friend that is in a NALFO Sorority (not at the school I attended) and is an active alumnae.
"This is upsetting but not surprising. I wish that she would have considered quitting during intake instead of wasting peoples time. I look at it this way (excuse me if I don’t use the proper lingo like you do): Girls who want to be an NPC organizations go into rush not having a clue where they will end up at the end. There is nothing wrong with that system if that is what you want to do. The NPHC interests have to research before they even choose to pursue an organization, and then more research on what they need to do in order to hopefully be selected. And then the chapters also want to get to know the women that are interested in order to make an informed decision. Our organizations mirror that of the NPHC. We don’t want women who just want to be in a sisterhood, we want women who want to be in OUR hermandad! We (and a couple of multicultural groups) worked closely with the NPHC on campus, so we didn’t have interests who were trying to be in both, and if they were it wouldn’t have been a good look anyway. They would’ve been denied. We did some occasional work with NPC/IFC chapters, and unfortunately, we never really talked about things like this. I wish we would have."

[amIblue?]

I really have nothing of significance to add to this thread, but I did want to say that I am really enjoying the conversation.

[DrPhil]

Which NPC sororities prohibit PNMs who are members of NPHC sororities?

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Which NPC sororities prohibit PNMs who are members of NPHC sororities?

None. NPC groups have no such restrictions. It's just for other NPC groups.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Titchou

None. NPC groups have no such restrictions. It's just for other NPC groups.

That sucks.

DeltaBetaBaby said "My point was that NPC groups will take former NALFO members because the idea of lifelong commitment has very little to do with how/why NPC groups make decisions."

That made me think I missed something because DeltaBetaBaby didn't include NPHC in that statement. But, nope, everyone's invisible to the NPC. My Sorority, for example, has restrictions pertaining to NPC but my Sorority isn't even a blip on the NPC radar. Whooooodydoooooo....

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by Titchou

None. NPC groups have no such restrictions. It's just for other NPC groups.

Are you sure about this or are we treading into membership selection territory for the individual orgs? I know there's no UA, but do you know for certain that it's not restricted for all 26 NPC sororities?

[Sen's Revenge]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

Are you sure about this or are we treading into membership selection territory for the individual orgs? I know there's no UA, but do you know for certain that it's not restricted for all 26 NPC sororities?

[tld221]

Originally Posted by Sen's Revenge

YAS.

[SoCalGirl]

As has been mentioned already, the rule about not joining multiple NPCs was put into place to prevent NPC groups from stealing each others members.

Since that agreement did not include NPHC or NALFO or any other group the rule does not apply. It's not about respect, it's about agreements.

Aren't there other organizations that people pledge loyalty to, like Masons and OES, which don't eliminate people from membership eligibility? What's the difference?


eta: Just searched through some stuff on the sister side of our website. I'll say that membership in another GLO (non honorary or professional) is a gray area. Not going to expand on that at all.

[misscherrypie]

Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

As has been mentioned already, the rule about not joining multiple NPCs was put into place to prevent NPC groups from stealing each others members.

Since that agreement did not include NPHC or NALFO or any other group the rule does not apply. It's not about respect, it's about agreements.

Aren't there other organizations that people pledge loyalty to, like Masons and OES, which don't eliminate people from membership eligibility? What's the difference?


eta: Just searched through some stuff on the sister side of our website. I'll say that membership in another GLO (non honorary or professional) is a gray area. Not going to expand on that at all.

I'm guessing because they aren't Sororities or Fraternities. The only reason why one of my sisters was allowed to pledge Beta by the nationals of the Multicultural national that she'd belongs to and is still active in as a collegiate,was because Beta wasn't considered to be a social sorority in their eyes. Every group has their own definition.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

Aren't there other organizations that people pledge loyalty to, like Masons and OES, which don't eliminate people from membership eligibility? What's the difference?

Really, SoCalGirl? Reeeeeeeeeeally?

Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

eta: Just searched through some stuff on the sister side of our website. I'll say that membership in another GLO (non honorary or professional) is a gray area. Not going to expand on that at all.

[33girl]

Someone might hit me for this, but the NPC UA about once you pledge one you can't ever pledge another, is less about harmony and love and more about realizing we all have weaker and stronger chapters and if we take advantage of something at School A, we can get bitten in the ass at School B.

I don't doubt that there are people out there who could commit to two "general" GLOs and treat them both completely equally in their heart and mind, and conduct themselves accordingly. I also don't doubt that there are people out there who tried this and did a horrible job. And in this world, unfortunately, we have to make rules based on the lowest common denominator.

[Sen's Revenge]

This has been a really disappointing conversation.

[PersistentDST]

Freemasonry and OES don't fit into this specific discussion, just like professional and service organizations don't fit into this specific discussion. We are talking about "General" or "Social" GLO's.


The NPC has rules in place so that an initiate of one sorority can never be initiated into another under their umbrella. The point was to make sure that chapters could not steal members from another sorority, whether it be about harmony or just balance. Whatever the reason, there is an agreement and mutual respect. Mutual. Respect.


The NPHC, NALFO and NMGC doesn't want their members stolen either. And would enjoy the mutual respect as we are all "general" organizations. (I really don't like calling my sorority "social" or "general" because we are MUCH more than that, but for the sake of argument I'll call it that.) Even if there is not some type of "agreement," there should be the same level of respect. It is not always afforded to us, because we are considered "other" or an alternative. We aren't.


The OP was initiated into the NALFO organization, and then said it wasn't for her (which she should have taken the time to figure out before initiation). And then says that she is worried that the NPC colony will have concerns about her being in a "multicultural" sorority. It's not a "multicultural" sorority. It is a sorority. She wanted sisterhood, she got it, and she quit on them. (There is no disaffiliation in my lexicon.)


Chi Omega Fraternity. Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Incorporated. Lambda Theta Alpha Latin Sorority, Incorporated. Mutual. Respect.

[Sen's Revenge]

Originally Posted by PersistentDST

Freemasonry and OES don't fit into this specific discussion, just like professional and service organizations don't fit into this specific discussion. We are talking about "General" or "Social" GLO's.


The NPC has rules in place so that an initiate of one sorority can never be initiated into another under their umbrella. The point was to make sure that chapters could not steal members from another sorority, whether it be about harmony or just balance. Whatever the reason, there is an agreement and mutual respect. Mutual. Respect.


The NPHC, NALFO and NMGC doesn't want their members stolen either. And would enjoy the mutual respect as we are all "general" organizations. (I really don't like calling my sorority "social" or "general" because we are MUCH more than that, but for the sake of argument I'll call it that.) Even if there is not some type of "agreement," there should be the same level of respect. It is not always afforded to us, because we are considered "other" or an alternative. We aren't.


The OP was initiated into the NALFO organization, and then said it wasn't for her (which she should have taken the time to figure out before initiation). And then says that she is worried that the NPC colony will have concerns about her being in a "multicultural" sorority. It's not a "multicultural" sorority. It is a sorority. She wanted sisterhood, she got it, and she quit on them. (There is no disaffiliation in my lexicon.)


Chi Omega Fraternity. Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Incorporated. Lambda Theta Alpha Latin Sorority, Incorporated. Mutual. Respect.