How do I start a high school fraternity

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by ElleMason

This ORIGINAL POST QUESTION was dated back in 99. It is ashame the responses that were given. All the negative responses to an innocent question. All the innocent answers given a negative response. WOW! And this is who High School students look up too. Obviously, these kids want to follow in the footsteps of those college frats and sororities. That is why so many of them create these types of organization in High School. Some of these kids don't even have much to look forward to until something like this is created. So many students go on to college, sad to say, to experince that kind of thing. Some of them are not allowed to. Some of them cannot afford to. SO to have it in high school gives them a great appreciation for the history of Greek Organization. Do you realize without a lot of these high school step teams, some students and their parents do not even know about college Greek Organizations. Or they know about them and do not know the importance of them. I was shocked to see so many African American Greeks respond so negatively. Before your Greek Fathers and Mothers stood for this, African Americans had no voice. Do you realize that most of your freedom fighters were Greek? Today that is knowledge that those in high school need to know. It gets them ready for college. It gives them a sence of pride to be apart of changing history. I live in Ruidoso, New Mexico. Im originally from Houston. I stepped in high school. It was a great experience. I could not go on to college to do so as I planned because I became very very ill. My high school sorority was the closest I got to being apart of that freedom. I now am the sponsor for The Ruidoso Warrior Steppers. I have a Delta Sigma Theta Sponsor also. These kids have learned about so many of you and some of them have their favorites. I never fail to mention history. This town is so happy for this program. They have never been happier. What's interesting about my kids is that they stand for something. They stand for change and togetherness. I have only 3 blacks on the team. I have a mixture of Native Americans, Indian, Mexicans, and whites. And they all look up to you College Greeks. My 2 that are graduating have now started to look for Colleges with Greek Oganization so they can continue standing for what they believe in. I would hate for them to look at the responses for a simple question posted here. I welcome all responses, even the negative ones. Change has come. Welcome it! For without change, most of our special activites, college, high schools, middle school and whatever, would seize to exist...... Sorry if some words have been mispelled.

Hmm, not looking at colleges that will advance their career regardless of whether they have a strong greek system or not?

**Flashing back to 96**

"What you come to college for?"

"I'm the first in my family, want to pursue a career."

"I want to be a doctor."

"I want to be a (insert favorite frat/sorority)"

**Snapping back**

Wait sorry about that I'm back.

Okay there is sooo much wrong with this post. So much in fact that this should be quoted and posted everywhere of why there should not be High School Greeks.

[dreamseeker]

Originally Posted by Gusteau

Actually...



From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TKE). Not the best source, of course, but its pretty commonly known.

i don't think Vito was challenging him on that fact, but rather on the entire post. It was just weird.

[Gusteau]

Originally Posted by dreamseeker

i don't think Vito was challenging him on that fact, but rather on the entire post. It was just weird.

That's for sure, I just thought it was odd that he chose the most coherent thing in the post to emphasize in bold font. Other than that, let the mocking continue...

[ree-Xi]

Originally Posted by ElleMason

This ORIGINAL POST QUESTION was dated back in 99. It is ashame the responses that were given. All the negative responses to an innocent question. All the innocent answers given a negative response. WOW! And this is who High School students look up too. Obviously, these kids want to follow in the footsteps of those college frats and sororities. That is why so many of them create these types of organization in High School. Some of these kids don't even have much to look forward to until something like this is created. So many students go on to college, sad to say, to experince that kind of thing. Some of them are not allowed to. Some of them cannot afford to. SO to have it in high school gives them a great appreciation for the history of Greek Organization. Do you realize without a lot of these high school step teams, some students and their parents do not even know about college Greek Organizations. Or they know about them and do not know the importance of them. I was shocked to see so many African American Greeks respond so negatively. Before your Greek Fathers and Mothers stood for this, African Americans had no voice. Do you realize that most of your freedom fighters were Greek? Today that is knowledge that those in high school need to know. It gets them ready for college. It gives them a sence of pride to be apart of changing history. I live in Ruidoso, New Mexico. Im originally from Houston. I stepped in high school. It was a great experience. I could not go on to college to do so as I planned because I became very very ill. My high school sorority was the closest I got to being apart of that freedom. I now am the sponsor for The Ruidoso Warrior Steppers. I have a Delta Sigma Theta Sponsor also. These kids have learned about so many of you and some of them have their favorites. I never fail to mention history. This town is so happy for this program. They have never been happier. What's interesting about my kids is that they stand for something. They stand for change and togetherness. I have only 3 blacks on the team. I have a mixture of Native Americans, Indian, Mexicans, and whites. And they all look up to you College Greeks. My 2 that are graduating have now started to look for Colleges with Greek Oganization so they can continue standing for what they believe in. I would hate for them to look at the responses for a simple question posted here. I welcome all responses, even the negative ones. Change has come. Welcome it! For without change, most of our special activites, college, high schools, middle school and whatever, would seize to exist...... Sorry if some words have been mispelled.

"It gives them a sence of pride to be apart of changing history... My high school sorority was the closest I got to being apart of that freedom."

Changing history? How? And what freedom are you talking about? Did I miss the list inalienable human rights that being Greek affords?

"SO to have it in high school gives them a great appreciation for the history of Greek Organization."

NO, it doesn't. It's like playing house when your parents are away and you invite your boyfriend or girlfriend over. Stepping is NOT a substitution for not being able to go to college, afford membership, etc. The shared experience of working on something together is what makes the experiences special, not naming the group with Greek letters. Going to college and being in a Greek organization are just two paths in life. They aren't the only ones.

"I have only 3 blacks on the team. I have a mixture of Native Americans, Indian, Mexicans, and whites. And they all look up to you College Greeks."

Really?? What is the point of the racial breakdown? The kids look up to Greeks because of stepping? FYI, stepping is not even ONE of the purposes and reasons that NPHC organizations exist. It's something that was born out of their experiences and culture. I'm not a member of the NPHC, but I'm offended by the complete misinterpretation of their reason for being.

As for misspellings, this site has spell check.

I have a headache now. Ooops I mean Eta Epsilon Alpha Delta Alpha Chi Eta Epsilon.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by SABC42

Just to clear some things up, there is no such thing as a sorority sponsoring high school girls as a part of their organization. Charters are only given to groups at universities that qualify. I highly doubt any fraternity does this either. Any secret society or "sorority/fraternity" in high school has been started by students with no recognition from any greek organization. To be honest I think it's kind of pointless because most high school sororities are based on popularity contests, haze much more than most college sororities, and don't in any way prepare you for college rush. We laughed at the girls who put things references to their high school sororities on their recs. It's stupid and childish.

Perhaps some are refering to the youth groups that some sororities and fraternities have at high schools.

[sass n klass]

In different parts of the country, there are highschools which permit those types of organizations. Based on my understand of a conversationt hat I had once with an individual who was i one, they are just local bodies, not incorporated and do not have a national presence. I will say;however that in the High School I attended, there were attempts made to that affect to no avail because administration got complaints that from local gangs represented in the school that it was unfair to let some students promote their affiliation while others were not allowed. Since administration was stupid, the couldn't justifiy the the exception so the fraternity was dissolved.

I will not tell you what you can not do. You can do whatever you want to do with the proper research and preparation. I would suggest that you look at some of the christian sororities and frats because they formed these orgs in non-traditional atomspheres. They might be a good resource to you.

[LainaIsPHIMU]

My younger brother (who is in fifth grade) is a member of a GLO called Sigma Beta, or something along those lines.
It is sponsered by a College level fraternity and they allow 5th-12th graders to join. The main purpose is for educational growth, but my brother is a part of a Step team thru it. By being in this group, he has a better chance of being in the fraternity at a college level. but this orginization was not started by people at their school. I doubt you will be able to start your own without the help of an existing GLO.
but i may be wrong

[libelle]

High school fraternities and sororities are still popular in some places. They tend to operate across several high schools within the same town. I was not a member of one but most of my high school friends were(are). See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phi_Kap...nal_Fraternity or http://deltabetasigma.com/

[Robm1093]

On Long Island There was lots of High school fraternitys. Alph sigma Phi was #1.

[ThetaPrincess24]

Originally Posted by Robm1093

On Long island Thair was lots of High school fraternitys. The best was Alph sigma Phi. Thay are on facebook.

Learn how to spell!

[pshsx1]

Alpha Sigma Phi... kind of like that really big, old college fraternity founded at Yale? Hm. I'm glad ample research was done when that high school one was named.

[Robm1093]

The High school one was started by AEI from yale. We just dont know by who and when? ( Lost history)

[LdsGal202]

idk about starting a Fraternity, but you can start a Greek Letter Organization. My school's step teams both boys and girls have Greek letters as well as a National Math org. called Mu Alpha Theta that competes nation wide. So i think it is definitely possible.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by LdsGal202

idk about starting a Fraternity, but you can start a Greek Letter Organization. My school's step teams both boys and girls have Greek letters as well as a National Math org. called Mu Alpha Theta that competes nation wide. So i think it is definitely possible.

This seems to be a growing trend, but the idea of step teams and other groups with greek letters is quite annoying since college fraternities, sororities, and like organizations have traditionally used them for many many years. When we say "Greek Letter Organization" or GLO we are talking about college sororities and fraternities, not step teams and high school groups. All of you need to focus on school and wait until college to try and be "greek."

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

This seems to be a growing trend, but the idea of step teams and other groups with greek letters is quite annoying since college fraternities, sororities, and like organizations have traditionally used them for many many years. When we say "Greek Letter Organization" or GLO we are talking about college sororities and fraternities, not step teams and high school groups. All of you need to focus on school and wait until college to try and be "greek."

I agree. You slap some Greek letters on something and call it a GLO? Seems kind of useless. Our Greek letters MEAN something, and our organizations have grown from just a few men and women to thousands upon thousands of members, for 100+ years in some cases. We have traditions and rituals that have been passed down all of those years, and we all live by a set of values shared by all of our brothers and sisters.

But you have a dance club at your high school that you just happen to call Delta Alpha Nu? Or a debate team that you've named Sigma Tau Phi Upsilon?

What's the reasoning? Because all of the cool college kids are doing it?