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01-20-2010, 08:35 PM
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I honestly don't think it has anything to do with making judgments on those with honest jobs.
Hey, people have sung for years there is no romance without the finance.
You have to have J O B if you wanna be with me
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What have you done for me lately.
I do believe that people have limits on what they are willing to accept when it comes someone's income.
Even if someone does settle with someone who is the 'fry guy' or 'fry girl' how long will they stay with them if that person does not realize their ambition?
I will say up front, an honest job is cool. Making an income is cool but if it start running into me having to take care of you then there may be some issues.
ETA: When talking about incomes, there is a line between making incomes that allow you some financial freedom and decision making vs being dependent on someone to pay expenses
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01-20-2010, 08:36 PM
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@ 33girl
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01-20-2010, 10:02 PM
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someone else can date the sandwich artist.
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01-20-2010, 10:27 PM
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someone else can date the sandwich artist.
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lol
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01-20-2010, 11:17 PM
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My problem is, I need someone who is intellectually stimulating to me. Most people who are intellectually stimulating would be bored to tears in those types of jobs. It's not about their actual job, but more about needing someone who has the same intellectual needs that I do and that includes a need to be challenged intellectually on a daily basis.
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01-20-2010, 11:19 PM
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My problem is, I need someone who is intellectually stimulating to me. Most people who are intellectually stimulating would be bored to tears in those types of jobs. It's not about their actual job, but more about needing someone who has the same intellectual needs that I do and that includes a need to be challenged intellectually on a daily basis.
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I'd usually agree, but with the way the economy is, having a "less than" job is usually better than nothing. There are ways to stimulate yourself intellectually outside of the workplace.
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01-21-2010, 07:25 AM
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I'd usually agree, but with the way the economy is, having a "less than" job is usually better than nothing. There are ways to stimulate yourself intellectually outside of the workplace.
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And there is a difference between someone who is doing what they have to do to make ends meet after the unemployment runs out and someone who is not attempting to do anything different than that fast food job. I'm also looking at this from a different phase in life than many of you are. After retirement from the "real job", that perspective will change again. I could totally see being the greeter at Walmart after I retire, just for the social contact and a little extra cash on top of my meager social security. Or working at a niche type hobby shop related to something I'm interested in. But in the mid 40's, if you're working at McDonald's and that's all you have ever done and all you ever plan to do (aside from management), I don't think we'd have a whole lot in common re: values, goals.
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01-20-2010, 11:49 PM
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better than a train wreck right?
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01-20-2010, 11:56 PM
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I don't know, trainwrecks can be kinda fun....
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01-20-2010, 11:57 PM
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Oh geez.
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01-21-2010, 09:13 AM
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Hey...I think some Mickie Dees and Taco Hells have retirement plans...ehehhe!!!
Sometimes I do feel that certain jobs are by design created to 'encourage' people who want more to move on rather than stay.
It's all up to that individual. For instance, I had a job for 5 years ( they even had a retirement plan!) and even though I liked it, I knew I had to leave because it was not my CAREER as well as a dead end. I also knew I had outgrown the position and could not advance any further nor were they willing to pay the salary that I wanted.
Not to mention for what they were paying me, it indirectly was killing some of my dating prospects as well as hindering my cost of living....HA!
And sometimes I think when we date someone we have to distinguish early on if the person we are with is working at a job or working in their career field. Does our career field make us content with what we are doing and take care of us and so on. Because let's face it, there are also some dead end career fields too
This is all coming back into a giant circle...hehe
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01-21-2010, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
Hey...I think some Mickie Dees and Taco Hells have retirement plans...ehehhe!!!
Sometimes I do feel that certain jobs are by design created to 'encourage' people who want more to move on rather than stay.
It's all up to that individual. For instance, I had a job for 5 years ( they even had a retirement plan!) and even though I liked it, I knew I had to leave because it was not my CAREER as well as a dead end. I also knew I had outgrown the position and could not advance any further nor were they willing to pay the salary that I wanted.
Not to mention for what they were paying me, it indirectly was killing some of my dating prospects as well as hindering my cost of living....HA!
And sometimes I think when we date someone we have to distinguish early on if the person we are with is working at a job or working in their career field. Does our career field make us content with what we are doing and take care of us and so on. Because let's face it, there are also some dead end career fields too
This is all coming back into a giant circle...hehe
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Oh yeah, I'm sure McDonald's and Taco Hell do have retirement plans, but the question is how much can your average everyday taco maker invest in herself/himself? Umm, like 1%--if that.
The only companies I know who want people to move on are the people who aren't very productive. I mean, why would any company want a good employee who produces, to leave? Move up, yeah. But to leave? I don't understand that.
Daemon, I understand what you're saying about dating, and I'm all for dating a guy if he's happy in his "career", but if he's working at a "job" and he's been there for a number of years and he doesn't have a plan for his future, then how can he even know where he's going? Seriously. I mean, give me one reason why I would find a guy like that interesting? I personally don't see anything wrong with not wanting to date a guy who isn't going anywhere.
I think when we're dating we have to distinguish early on a lot of things, and most of that comes with time. I mean, what someone does for a living is one of the first topics we ask/talk about. I mean, even in college, one of the first questions or topics that come up on a date are majors/minors/goals etc. So, the first date or even just being introduced to that person can determine if you even want to go out on one date with them. Ya know what mean? It's just that I think it's about what you look for in a potential partner. Finance, sex, and communication are the 3 biggest causes of divorce. It takes two to make it work, so it depends on what you're looking for in the person you're dating.
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01-21-2010, 06:27 PM
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For everyone bashing restaurant workers...face it, in today's economy, they probably have way more secure jobs than some white collar workers. People in advertising agencies are losing jobs because companies are cutting it. However, people are STILL eating at McDonald's, not to mention far more expensive restaurants.
As far as "you'd have to be a complete intellectual lump to stay in that job" - what about all the guys who worked on the assembly lines for umpteen years? They didn't just do the same job, they did the SAME SET OF MOTIONS for 8+ hours a day. I sincerely doubt that every man in that position needed multiple hints to spell "cat" or the like. The job was secure, the benefits rocked - they didn't quit because they weren't being intellectually stimulated.
Re AOIIAngel's hubby, a true homemaker as opposed to housewife/husband IS a full time job. You're maintaining the home, raising the children, doing things that normally the family might have to hire someone to do. That being said, when AOIIAngel gets home, the laundry should be done, dinner should be on the table, and the house should be clean.
Having been in an office job that became incredibly mentally and emotionally deadening, I want no part of the corporate world right now, because the people above me (the "successes") didn't seem much happier. I want to do my job, come home, and forget about it. If someone wants to think I'm stupid or lazy for that reason, I really don't give a shit.
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01-21-2010, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 33girl
For everyone bashing restaurant workers...face it, in today's economy, they probably have way more secure jobs than some white collar workers. People in advertising agencies are losing jobs because companies are cutting it. However, people are STILL eating at McDonald's, not to mention far more expensive restaurants.
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IAWTC.
Just because your S/O has a job that is "less than" yours doesn't mean s/he lacks ambition, especially in this economy.
And I think a lot of people forget that your job/career isn't necessarily your only outlet for intellectual stimulation. I might work at McDonald's but spend my weekends attending plays and visiting museums. It's wrong to automatically dismiss someone based on job alone.
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01-21-2010, 06:58 PM
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IAWTC.
Just because your S/O has a job that is "less than" yours doesn't mean s/he lacks ambition, especially in this economy.
And I think a lot of people forget that your job/career isn't necessarily your only outlet for intellectual stimulation. I might work at McDonald's but spend my weekends attending plays and visiting museums. It's wrong to automatically dismiss someone based on job alone.
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