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Old 12-11-2003, 10:55 PM
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I've got news for you- ONLY CONFERENCES WITH 12 TEAMS PLAY CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIPS.
Amy
I know this, however, the fact that you don't play a conference championship still bugs me. And I don't think USC should play in the Sugar Bowl because of it, and I don't think that OU should be penalized because we do. Ou still has a better record than you, we have a smaller loss percentage. OU still has a better record than K State, they lost one game, and we didn't even play them in the regular season, like Georgia and LSU.

Besides, this way you might win your bowl game, even though I'm rooting for Michigan. (Which shows how much I hate SoCal, because I'm a Michigan State fan.) I said that you should aim for number 3, way back in September.

I only spoke up because someone asked why people hate USC. I do because they seem to be a bunch of whiners. And the University of Spoiled Children thing is way old.

The BCS is the best option for figuring who goes to bowls because the Coaches poll is biased, the computers aren't and they're accurate with the math.
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Old 12-11-2003, 11:24 PM
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Regardless of the BCS controversy, I still stand by my team.

BOOMER SOONER!!!!

So did I, until they got worked by K State.
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Old 12-12-2003, 04:00 AM
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I'm not attacking you-- It does suck that w some conferences having a championship game and some not makes it not a level playing field. I wish we did in the pac 10 to be honest, we'd have slaughtered WA state AGAIN and silenced some of our dissenters. I think OU is a good team, but so are LSU AND USC. We are ALL deserving of it and the way it is is just the way the cookie crumbled.

What I don't believe in is computers who don't watch games making the decisions. We all have arguments why OUR team is best and why the other should not be there. And I think we are all, in our own ways, RIGHT.

But consider this, USC plays one less game than OU and LSU. And it took one more game for LSU to amass enough points to jump us? Am I bitter, no-- I think LSU is a great team and who I am rooting for. I'd be proud to share the title with them, they've conducted themselves with class. I've not been impressed with Bob Stoops' comments in the media, but that's not your or the team's fault.

ALL THREE TEAMS had great seasons.

THe Spoiled Children thing IRKS me. Is it true-- HELL YES. Who at a $40K a year school is not spoiled? I went to private and prep schools my whole life, I've dealt w that moniker for ALL of my alma maters. But it was MY CHOICE to go to USC and YOUR CHOICE to go to OU-- I do not call you or your fellow Sooners names and I would appreciate it if you'd leave the Trojans alone too.

Consider this--Are people so against USC because of all the media coverage we are getting and it almost all being slanted towards us being robbed? I can understand that, you feel your team deserves it, and you do. ALL 3 DO, that is the real point here, that the system could not predict a scenario to deal w this. Or maybe it did--Its called a split championship, I hope LSU and USC. GEAUX TIGERS and FIGHT ON TROJANS!

Amy

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Old 12-12-2003, 04:03 AM
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PS I don't think math should decide a HUMAN GAME that has variables. I subscribe to the let the computers decide if the human polls do not agree school of thought. And if not, I want margin of victory/defeat brought back to at least 1/2 the computers. We all 3 slaughtered our opponents all season, where it would have come into play was in the losses. It may still have ended up the same way, w OU and LSU losing to ranked teams and USC not, then again we lost by less than OU and LSU so who knows--but either way, the outcome would have felt fairer. OU was so far ahead of LSU and USC in the polls prior to their loss that it does not surprise me they did not drop in BCS rankings. I don't agree w it, I think OU should have dropped, but I can admit my bias.
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Old 12-12-2003, 04:31 AM
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theres something else that needs to be talked about, and that is how niu got screwed. they go 10-2 and they dont get a bowl bid but 6-6 teams do. thats not cool
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Old 12-15-2003, 01:04 AM
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PULEEZE............

If the BCS had somehow put USC in the Sugar Bowl, all their fans would be saying how wonderful the computer was!

If you add back in the margin of victories, all those 50-70 point wins by Oklahoma would have trumped everyone else. Besides, that only encourages the teams to keep runnng up the scores even more.

And all those bitching about unfair polls, since when do humans think fairly when voting for or againt teir own teams?

You might not like the computer, but at least it's OBJECTIVE!
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Old 12-15-2003, 01:15 AM
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Here's a PERFECT solution.

If you don't want people to bitch about how the BCS is screwed up:


DON'T LOSE......
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Old 12-15-2003, 12:00 PM
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theres something else that needs to be talked about, and that is how niu got screwed. they go 10-2 and they dont get a bowl bid but 6-6 teams do. thats not cool
It's all about butts in seats. If you're a bowl, would you rather count on 10-2 NIU's bowl contingent or say Nebraska's? Or UCLA's?

No contest, right?
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Old 12-16-2003, 12:02 AM
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The BCS is the best system we have at this time. I said that when we were ranked third and I still stand by that. However, it needs some changes. What gets me is the USC people that think there should be a split championship trophy. Don't get me wrong all three teams are qualified and they are all excellent football programs. I really think it makes OU and USC's coaches look bad when they are both on TV saying they are both the number one teams. We'll see...............
I guess I'm biased too.

Some interesting thoughts:
a.. LSU outsored opponents by 314 points compared to USC's 281
b.. LSU played 5 teams with 8 or more wins, whereas USC only played 2
c.. The opponents winning percentage of LSU's top 5 victories was 80%; USC's top 5 opponents winning percentage was 66% (does not include head-to-head matchups).
d.. LSU played 4 games against opponents that will playing in bowl games on Jan. 1 or later. USC played zero such teams.

The media claims that USC shouldn't be penalized for its weak schedule. While we will never know how USC would have faired against Georgia (twice), Ole Miss, and Arkansas, we do know how LSU faired . . . just look at the evidence.
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Old 12-16-2003, 01:29 AM
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USC tried to schedule a tough schedule, Notre Dame and Auburn were supposed to be good this year. USC didn't schedule any D1AA schools.

I tend to look at out of confrerence opponets since who you play in confrerence is a given....

USC:

August 30 at Auburn W 23-0
September 6 BYU W 35-18
September 13 Hawaii W 61-32
October 18 at Notre Dame W 45-14

LSU:

August 30 Louisiana Monroe W 49-7
September 6 at Arizona W 59-13
September 13 Western Illinois W 35-7
November 1 Louisiana Tech W 49-10

I could care less about all three title contenders but there is no soundproof reason where one of the teams doesn't belong. Kinda messed up.
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Old 12-16-2003, 02:21 AM
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Looks like you forgot some....


LSU:
Win against Auburn 31-7
South Carolina 33-7
Alabama 27-3
Arkansas 55-24 (Most of Arkansas TD's came towards the end when our starters were out)
Georgia 34-13
Ole Miss 17-14
Miss State 41-6 (okay, that doesn't count, lol)
Florida, only Loss 19-7 Oct. 11
Arizona 59-13
Western Illinois 35-7
Auburn 31-7 (the team predicted to win the SEC west)

It doesn't make a difference to me where your opponents come from.

USC:
Arizona 45-0

It is nearly impossible to compare apples with apples in these types of things. That's where the BCS comes in.
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Old 12-16-2003, 09:17 AM
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I tend to look out of confrerence since in confrerence games are a given. I'm sure USC would play Washington St 8 times if they could just to impress the computers much like LSU could beat Georgia 8 times to do the same. Good luck to the tigers, most people I know will be rooting for them.

A simple playoff format is already there:

#4 Michigan vs #1 USC
#3 Oklahoma vs #2 LSU

Let the winners play each other
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Old 12-16-2003, 02:17 PM
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Arkansas 55-24 (Most of Arkansas TD's came towards the end when our starters were out)
wrong, only one of our touchdowns came after your starters were pulled, considering it was 17 all in the second quarter.
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Old 12-16-2003, 11:00 PM
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Score by Quarters 1 2 3 4 Score
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Arkansas.......... 10 7 0 7 - 24
LSU................. 10 24 21 0 - 55
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Old 12-17-2003, 09:18 AM
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I tend to look out of confrerence since in confrerence games are a given. I'm sure USC would play Washington St 8 times if they could just to impress the computers much like LSU could beat Georgia 8 times to do the same. Good luck to the tigers, most people I know will be rooting for them.

A simple playoff format is already there:

#4 Michigan vs #1 USC
#3 Oklahoma vs #2 LSU

Let the winners play each other
I think a 2 round playoff is the only thing we can ever really expect to happen. Only trouble is that it's only 3 games. So which BCS bowls get to host the championship playoffs?

They might rotate it.

I think the rest of the bowl system could be successful with a very small playoff system. What I'm not in favor of are games that detract from the importance of the regular season.

Look at college basketball. Right now, does anything matter while teams are playing OOC? Nope. They're playing mostly directional schools and a few marquis matchups to rake in the $. Record doesn't mean crap 'til you're in conference.

Once in the tournement, your conference/OOC doesn't mean crap except for seeding.

I love March Madness but we only need it once per year
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