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Old 06-23-2005, 12:51 PM
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Who said anything about casting him out? Harry's so fool-hardy, he may leave them for good and risk the danger. Harry has often risked his life (and his parents' sacrifice) for a good adventure or a chance to get away from the Dursleys. I think he might be so giddy over the possibility of being free, he might just pack up and go (and Ron would probably encourage him, they might live together).
Like chideltjen's quote says, "I don't go looking for trouble, trouble usually find me". I don't think Harry goes off looking for for adventure. i think harry would be perfectly happy to spend the summer's at the Dursley's if they treated him better. I think Harry wants to feel safe, but he doesn't at the Dursley's, so he ;eaves to try and find somewhere better. He's not out looking to cause mischief.
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Old 06-23-2005, 02:50 PM
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I think Fred and George did open up a joke shop, but I also might be getting my fac fic mixed up, since I do plan on re-reading the books again (even CoS) in prep for the July 16 release.

I do remember them opening up a mail order business.....
I wonder if you read the same Fan Fic I did... Because the twin's joke shop was in the series I read.

I do remember them vaguely doing some sort of mail order, but nothing after they terrorized Umbridge and left the school.
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Old 06-23-2005, 04:12 PM
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I wonder if you read the same Fan Fic I did... Because the twin's joke shop was in the series I read.

I do remember them vaguely doing some sort of mail order, but nothing after they terrorized Umbridge and left the school.
They were doing it mail order, but I thought they told Harry that they put a deposit down on a store front. (Or maybe I'm confusing it with fanfic.)
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Old 06-23-2005, 11:40 PM
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In the chapter "Career Advice (# 29)" on the last page it's the twins' exit from Hogwarts - they say "If anyone fancies buying a Portable Swamp....come to number ninety-three, Diagon Alley - Weasleys' Wizard Wheezes"

So it's definitely in the book
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Old 06-25-2005, 02:16 PM
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I believe it comes out November 18th. You might check mugglenet or Leaky Cauldron or IMDB for exact date.
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Old 06-25-2005, 09:03 PM
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Like chideltjen's quote says, "I don't go looking for trouble, trouble usually find me". I don't think Harry goes off looking for for adventure. i think harry would be perfectly happy to spend the summer's at the Dursley's if they treated him better. I think Harry wants to feel safe, but he doesn't at the Dursley's, so he ;eaves to try and find somewhere better. He's not out looking to cause mischief.
Oh, that's not what I meant. I just said that Harry may leave the Dursleys in search of a better place to live. I call him fool-hardy because he's made so many bad mistakes after the warnings of those who've tried to protect him. Since I don't see the Dursleys treating him any nicer (do you?) I think there's a good chance that he may go live in the wizarding world no matter what Dumbledore said. For one, he should be old enough to have full access to his inheritance, so that wouldn't stop him (does he have the keys to the vault? he's never gotten money out w/out an adult with him). For two, if this whole Harry/Voldemort thing is settled by Book 7, what danger would there be? He'd be free to live his life.
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Old 06-26-2005, 07:59 AM
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Oh, that's not what I meant. I just said that Harry may leave the Dursleys in search of a better place to live. I call him fool-hardy because he's made so many bad mistakes after the warnings of those who've tried to protect him. Since I don't see the Dursleys treating him any nicer (do you?) I think there's a good chance that he may go live in the wizarding world no matter what Dumbledore said. For one, he should be old enough to have full access to his inheritance, so that wouldn't stop him (does he have the keys to the vault? he's never gotten money out w/out an adult with him). For two, if this whole Harry/Voldemort thing is settled by Book 7, what danger would there be? He'd be free to live his life.
Ok, I get you know.

I think Petunia is very slowly coming around though.
Also, I think Harry is still going to die in Book 7. JKR is not known for wrapping everything up in a neat little package, and everyone is happy and good always triumphs over evil. But that's just what I think.
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Old 06-27-2005, 09:45 AM
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Oh, that's not what I meant. I just said that Harry may leave the Dursleys in search of a better place to live. I call him fool-hardy because he's made so many bad mistakes after the warnings of those who've tried to protect him. Since I don't see the Dursleys treating him any nicer (do you?) I think there's a good chance that he may go live in the wizarding world no matter what Dumbledore said. For one, he should be old enough to have full access to his inheritance, so that wouldn't stop him (does he have the keys to the vault? he's never gotten money out w/out an adult with him). For two, if this whole Harry/Voldemort thing is settled by Book 7, what danger would there be? He'd be free to live his life.
And in OotP, Sirius told Harry how he ran away from home when he was 16 or so -- he went to live with Harry's father's family. Like godfather, like godson?
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Old 06-27-2005, 09:47 AM
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In the chapter "Career Advice (# 29)" on the last page it's the twins' exit from Hogwarts - they say "If anyone fancies buying a Portable Swamp....come to number ninety-three, Diagon Alley - Weasleys' Wizard Wheezes"

So it's definitely in the book
The confusion may have come from the fact that earlier in OotP, before the start of the school year, the twins told Harry that they had not been able to find premises yet, so they were running the business purely as a mail-order business. They were running ads in The Daily Prophet, knowing their mother had stopped reading it because of the way it was smearing Harry.
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Old 06-27-2005, 11:23 AM
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Oh, that's not what I meant. I just said that Harry may leave the Dursleys in search of a better place to live. I call him fool-hardy because he's made so many bad mistakes after the warnings of those who've tried to protect him. Since I don't see the Dursleys treating him any nicer (do you?) I think there's a good chance that he may go live in the wizarding world no matter what Dumbledore said. For one, he should be old enough to have full access to his inheritance, so that wouldn't stop him (does he have the keys to the vault? he's never gotten money out w/out an adult with him). For two, if this whole Harry/Voldemort thing is settled by Book 7, what danger would there be? He'd be free to live his life.

I don't think it would be wise for Harry to leave the Dursley's. Here's why...

OotP, chapter 2 (page 40), Aunt Petunia recieves the howler (from Dumbledore but we don't know it was from him at the time) saying "Remember my last, Petunia", she then insists (with complaints from Vernon and Dudley) that Harry stays (with them).

Then chapter 37 (starting on page 835) Dumbledore starts to explain things to Harry, including why he is with the Dursley's. (And I'm quoting directly from the book page 836)

"I am speaking, of course, of the fact that your mother died to save you. She gave you a lingering protection he never expected, a protection that flows in your veins to this day. I put my trust, therefore, in your mother's blood. I delivered you to her sister, her only remaining relative...she may have taken you grudgingly, furiously, unwillingly, bitterly, yet she still took you, and in doing so sealed the charm I placed upon you. Your mother's sacrifice made the bond of blood the strongest sheild I could give you...while you still call home the place where your mother's blood dwells, there you cannot be touch or harmed by Voldemort. He shed her blood, but it lives in you and her sister."


With that being said, yes Harry has done some stupid things (he's a kid) but I don't think he would deliberately leave the Dursley's when he knows that during the term he is safe at Hogwarts and during the summer he is safe at the Dursley's. As much as he despises the latter he knows about the charm now. He knows that Voldemort can't get to him there.



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Old 06-27-2005, 04:21 PM
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I'm re-reading Books 4 & 5. At the end of GOF, I found a line that I found interesting. I'm sure that it was discussed here in the past, but this thread is too long.

OK, Dumbledore, Sirius, and Harry are in Dumbledore's office after Barty Jr's confession. Harry tells them that Voldemort has returned to even greater power because noe he can touch him. Now, here's the odd part. Harry notices a quick glimpse of triumph in Dumbledore's eyes.

WHAT IS THAT ABOUT?!?!
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Old 06-27-2005, 04:37 PM
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I'm re-reading Books 4 & 5. At the end of GOF, I found a line that I found interesting. I'm sure that it was discussed here in the past, but this thread is too long.

OK, Dumbledore, Sirius, and Harry are in Dumbledore's office after Barty Jr's confession. Harry tells them that Voldemort has returned to even greater power because noe he can touch him. Now, here's the odd part. Harry notices a quick glimpse of triumph in Dumbledore's eyes.

WHAT IS THAT ABOUT?!?!
I think that it means now that Voldemort is corporeal there may be additional ways to destroy him and Dumbledore realizes it. If Voldemort continued in vapor or even parasidic form, like with Prof. Quirrell, destroying him would be a little trickier because he was not easily identifiable.
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Old 06-27-2005, 06:43 PM
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Awesome! What a great birthday treat for me. I'm excited.
I was thinking the same thing, its the day after mine.

And that is the date I heard too. I remember thnking that it would be a good bday present to myself......
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Old 06-27-2005, 08:54 PM
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I was on the J.K. website & in the rubbish bin, I broke the blue pen & the ink leaked. It revealed 3 items to find to get a clue. I so far have the broken eggshells & the blue stones but I can't figure out what the hell the stick things are. Can anyone help?
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Old 06-28-2005, 09:16 AM
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I was on the J.K. website & in the rubbish bin, I broke the blue pen & the ink leaked. It revealed 3 items to find to get a clue. I so far have the broken eggshells & the blue stones but I can't figure out what the hell the stick things are. Can anyone help?
I'm not quite sure what it is, but examine the Extra Stuff page.
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