Can National Shut Down a Chapter Because of it's Racial Breakdown?

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by alum

Just to play devil's advocate, how do we not know that Achilles87 isn't talking about an NPHC group that is pledging too many Caucasians?

Well, we don't know, but I don't think any NPHC fraternity has an "Executive Vice President."

BUT IF HE WAS talking about an NPHC (and in Alpha, I can think of one chapter that seems to fit the description)...in fact, no matter the coordinating body, I suggest that he speaks to whomever on his campus is in charge of Greek life if they are being threatened with closure or recolonization.

My gut is telling me his fraternity just can't do what he's describing! It sounds wrong on a lot of levels.

To echo posters above me, if they are REALLY and TRULY fulfilling the "redhead" mission with a diverse chapter, then they need to speak to someone on campus.

[Senusret I]

Oh, no. I totally understand what you mean. And I understand the sentiment behind it. There are plenty of collegiate chapters of the NPHC who believe their chapter comes first.

I just happen to believe that they are all incorrect and have missed the point of being in a national fraternity.

Just to reiterate, this is not an NPHC/NIC thing. This is a problem among many people who pledge anything.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Oh, no. I totally understand what you mean. And I understand the sentiment behind it. There are plenty of collegiate chapters of the NPHC who believe their chapter comes first.

I just happen to believe that they are all incorrect and have missed the point of being in a national fraternity.

Just to reiterate, this is not an NPHC/NIC thing. This is a problem among many people who pledge anything.

From this thread, it does look like an NPHC/NIC thing as far as where priorities lie and whichever way you lean has a lot to do with which type of organization you'll want to join.

[Ch2tf]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

From this thread, it does look like an NPHC/NIC thing as far as where priorities lie and whichever way you lean has a lot to do with which type of organization you'll want to join.

I also think it's a maturity thing. I don't want to come off as talking down to younger GLO members or younger prospective members, but the insight one puts into a decision at 17/18 years old is different (in some cases) than that put into the same decision at 20/21.

I personally can't see myself promising lifetime membership to an organization and don't know what their ideals are. I also can't see joining an organization solely based on the people in the chapter because 1) people change 2) and because when you're interacting with people as a prospective member, chapter members are trying to make a good impression on you and you are not necessarily getting 100% of who those people really are.

[magichat]

Originally Posted by Ch2tf

I also think it's a maturity thing. I don't want to come off as talking down to younger GLO members or younger prospective members, but the insight one puts into a decision at 17/18 years old is different (in some cases) than that put into the same decision at 20/21.

I personally can't see myself promising lifetime membership to an organization and don't know what their ideals are. I also can't see joining an organization solely based on the people in the chapter because 1) people change 2) and because when you're interacting with people as a prospective member, chapter members are trying to make a good impression on you and you are not necessarily getting 100% of who those people really are.

I don't know if that is a reference to me, but I am 21 years old and still feel the same way I did when I was 18 about where loyalty should lie.

The ideals of organization are great and mean alot to me, but as I stated earlier, had nothing to do with my decision to join.

[Ch2tf]

Originally Posted by magichat

I don't know if that is a reference to me, but I am 21 years old and still feel the same way I did when I was 18 about where loyalty should lie.

The ideals of organization are great and mean alot to me, but as I stated earlier, had nothing to do with my decision to join.

No it was not a reference to you specifically or else I would've quoted you. It was general addition to the discussion at hand.

[magichat]

Our disconnect may have much to do with me having graduated recently and still being young and full of piss and vinegar, in that case then.

I would love to continue this discussion but I am running late for a tee time.

[33girl]

If your chapter is stable as far as operations and numbers are concerned, and if you are still espousing the redhead focused causes the national org espouses, they shouldn't be able to shut you down. When you start changing ritual and having Blond is Beautiful day, though, then I could see where they'd have a gripe.

There are often differing opinions among members/alumnae/national councils of formerly all-redhead chapters as to how "red" they should stay. (Better Dead Than Not Red? LOL, showing my age there) Your EVP might have that as his PERSONAL point of view, it doesn't mean everyone else at your HQ or on your national council does.

[OnTheBanks]

I just wanted to mention that there actually is an organization devoted to redheads...it is called the Princeton Redhead Society. I don't think it is necessarily for left-handed ones. Sorry, as a natural redhead I just get really excited about redheaded stuff sometimes.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/11...ads/index.html

[tld221]

Originally Posted by OnTheBanks

I just wanted to mention that there actually is an organization devoted to redheads...it is called the Princeton Redhead Society. I don't think it is necessarily for left-handed ones. Sorry, as a natural redhead I just get really excited about redheaded stuff sometimes.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/11...ads/index.html

i done seen it all now.

[Senusret I]

[breathesgelatin]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

LOL. My boyfriend is terrified he will sire Ginger Kids someday (his mom and grandma are redheads).

[SWTXBelle]

And I soooo wanted a little redhead! (My grandmother was a redhead) I got 3 blondes and a brunette.

[breathesgelatin]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

And I soooo wanted a little redhead! (My grandmother was a redhead) I got 3 blondes and a brunette.

Ha, I myself would love to have a redhead.

[OnTheBanks]

Originally Posted by breathesgelatin

Ha, I myself would love to have a redhead.

Me too! I want lots of them! Red hair is beautiful!