Why Obama Should Not Be the Next President of USA

[skylark]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

It's no guarantee of responsibility on the part of the voter, blah blah chow meow. Basically you're making the same assumption you're pointing out in others, just in reverse.

I think that the assumptions I make are more based in statistics than others, simply to say that I think college-educated people are more likely than not to read the paper, watch the news instead of wheel of fortune, etc. Sure it isn't a guarantee and surely we have all known people that graduated from college by a miracle against nature.

I always find it funny how when you say something on GC, it turns into that you said that something was ALWAYS true, no matter what, under any circumstances, because someone wants to pull your thought down off of the shelf and give it a beating. I think the expression is something like taking down a straw man (or close). Anyway, I certainly don't think that a college degree protects you from ignorance, nor do I think that if you are out there without a college degree you can't be one of the smartest thinkers in the country. I think that it is merely an indicator that a person might have more actively engaged brain cells than the average non-college-educated person.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by skylark

^^ I never said that some don't. I think that the same could be said for any candidate. I just think that the stereotype is fairly inaccurate and there are both specific examples out there and statistics that back it up. I think that there is a huge media push to make people think that Obama support is hallow (and thus dissuade people from supporting him by making them think that they'd be in bad company)... but I have yet to see anything but spin to support that myth.

Yeah...but I'm talking about Obama supporters.

Being an Obama supporter is cool now because change is cool. So everywhere I go and everyone who talks to me is harassing me about Obama. But most of them don't know why they're harassing me.

[skylark]

Well, feel free to show those statistics if you'd like to reference them

Your wish is my command Ksig:

In Wisconsin: "College-educated voters, who made up 72 percent of those polled, favored him 58 percent to 40 percent." http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/...iref=hpmostpop

Another article: http://chronicle.com/blogs/election/...llege-educated

And another: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...,3269133.story

God Bless Google News Search.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by skylark

Your wish is my command Ksig:

In Wisconsin: "College-educated voters, who made up 72 percent of those polled, favored him 58 percent to 40 percent." http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/...iref=hpmostpop

First off, "dude" is not gender-specific anymore - you should know that, counselor, if you've been reading up on your Gen-X/Y materials. I can ship you some if you send me a billing address. (Note: I'm totally kidding here, and not patronizing, I promise)

Also, I apologize for this, because I kind of set you up - this is why I didn't just hit up Google News myself, as well - but it's fascinating that Obama was favored by college-aged voters by a 58:40 margin . . . since he was favored by all voters at a 58:41 margin.

I know it's popular wisdom that Obama resonates with the educated, but the only solid statistical evidence I've seen shows that Obama's significant advantage is actually among college students (who are also showing up more than ever before). Zogby, IIRC, pushed this whole "college educated" thing a few times, before some serious statistical flaws were identified (full disclosure: I think John Zogby is a douche, and that's based on professional experiences), but I'm not 100% sure it's been shown as consistent.

[skylark]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

but it's fascinating that Obama was favored by college-aged voters by a 58:40 margin . . . since he was favored by all voters at a 58:41 margin.

Very good point (proof how statistics are not as transparent as they seem)! I think that maybe the other articles highlight that it might be more of an educational difference for white voters, although I have to admit that I haven't looked up the original statistics used as bases for those articles. Touche, though.

And I've never been called a dude in real life. Maybe it is supposed to be okay and gender neutral, but "dude" felt as awkward as when someone on here calls me a "he." I'm just as bad, though, because for the longest time I thought MysticCat was a woman and Dionysus was a man (I know, the login name should have been clue #1).