Iowa Caucus Tonight

[Phrozen1ne]

Go Obama, Go!!!

[Low C Sharp]

BARAAAAAAAAAACK!

Seriously, I haven't felt this much hope for our country in a long time.
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Problems with wellbutrin

[scbelle]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

If Obama is elected president of the United States, I will vomit nonstop until I die- and I'll be happy doing it because that means I won't have to live through the next four years.

No such luck. I've been vomitting nonstop for the last 7, and I've still had to endure the Bush-Cheney s#%@.

[PhiGam]

Iowa almost always votes differently than the national polls show, I'll be shocked if it isn't Hillary vs. Huckabee or Giuliani based on the nationwide polls I've seen.

[scbelle]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

Iowa almost always votes differently than the national polls show, I'll be shocked if it isn't Hillary vs. Huckabee or Giuliani based on the nationwide polls I've seen.

Except for the fact that Linn County has a 100% track record of picking the candidates in both fields... this year is was Obama and Romney. We shall see if their statistic holds up.

[ISUKappa]

Originally Posted by scbelle

Except for the fact that Linn County has a 100% track record of picking the candidates in both fields... this year is was Obama and Romney. We shall see if their statistic holds up.

Interesting. I never knew that.

[UGAalum94]

How far does the Linn Country record of predictions go back?

[PhiGam]

Originally Posted by scbelle

Except for the fact that Linn County has a 100% track record of picking the candidates in both fields... this year is was Obama and Romney. We shall see if their statistic holds up.

Those two are a worse case scenario IMO. Romney is a huge panderer and Obama doesn't have enough experience.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

Those two are a worse case scenario IMO. Romney is a huge panderer and Obama doesn't have enough experience.

Oh, no, I disagree.

Huckabee or Guiliani vs. Clinton is a much worse case scenario, if you ask me.

[ZTABullwinkle]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

Any combination of Clinton, Obama v Paul, Guiliani would be enough to stop my heart.

Speaking of Paul, did he even participate in the Iowa Caucus? (Can you tell how much I have been avoiding the election coverage?)

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by ZTABullwinkle

Speaking of Paul, did he even participate in the Iowa Caucus? (Can you tell how much I have been avoiding the election coverage?)

He placed fifth with that 10%. NH will decide if McCain and Guliani are still in the game, but from Paul on down are out. However, he seems to be running on a "I get an automatic audience for my views" kick, so whatever works for him.

Originally Posted by PhiGam

Those two are a worse case scenario IMO. Romney is a huge panderer and Obama doesn't have enough experience.

I'm rather sick of the whole "experience" thing. Obama's got legislative and legal experience but no foreign or governing experience. That puts him on even ground with those people who only have governing experience or even governing and legal experience. And really part of his appeal is that he hasn't been playing this game for years.

Oh no, he won't know where the bathrooms are in the White House! Vote Hillary!

/it's a slow day

[Drolefille]

Paul was excluded from the Fox "round table" debate that they're doing before NH. He was invited to the ABC debate. I suspect Fox wanted 4 people, not 5 and that, unlike conspiracy theorists it's due to wanting the most likely candidates along with a reasonable number of people around a table. The ABC debate is a "normal" one with podiums and the like and they're taking the top 5 candidates from each party.

Or you know, the "main-stream media" is keeping Paul down. Wait it's Fox... it must be Paul's views on the Iraq war, yeah that's it. I've not seen so much "omg conspiracy" from a candidate's supporters before.

[bluefish81]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

He also took the women's vote, 35% versus 30% for Hillary. That hurt her bad, and was a surprise to the political pundits.

I have lots of friends in Iowa, I don't know any of them that caucused for Hillary. Most were supporting either Obama, Edwards or Richardson.

Originally Posted by PhiGam

Iowa almost always votes differently than the national polls show, I'll be shocked if it isn't Hillary vs. Huckabee or Giuliani based on the nationwide polls I've seen.

Generally, the person who gets the nod from the party finishes in the top three (except '92 when IA Senator Tom Harkin ran). I found this on wikipedia in terms of how the caucuses have turned out and who got the nods:

Democrats:
January 19, 2004 - John Kerry, John Edwards, Howard Dean, Dick Gephardt, and Dennis Kucinich
January 24, 2000 - Al Gore and Bill Bradley
February 12, 1996 - Bill Clinton (unopposed)
February 10, 1992 - Tom Harkin, "Uncommitted", Paul Tsongas, Bill Clinton, Bob Kerrey, and Jerry Brown
February 8, 1988 - Dick Gephardt, Paul Simon, Michael Dukakis, and Bruce Babbitt
February 20, 1984 - Walter Mondale, Gary Hart, George McGovern, Alan Cranston, John Glenn, Reubin Askew, and Jesse Jackson
January 21, 1980 - Jimmy Carter and Ted Kennedy
January 19, 1976 - "Uncommitted", Jimmy Carter, Birch Bayh, Fred R. Harris, Morris Udall (6%), Sargent Shriver, and Henry M. Jackson
January 24, 1972 - "Uncommitted" (36%), Edmund Muskie, George McGovern, Hubert Humphrey, Eugene McCarthy, Shirley Chisholm, and Henry M. Jackson

Republicans:
2004- George W. Bush (unopposed)
2000- George W. Bush, Steve Forbes, Alan Keyes, Gary Bauer, John McCain, and Orrin Hatch
1996- Bob Dole, Pat Buchanan, Lamar Alexander, Steve Forbes, Phil Gramm, Alan Keyes, Richard Lugar, and Morry Taylor
1992- George H. W. Bush (unopposed)
1988- Bob Dole, Pat Robertson, George H. W. Bush, Jack Kemp, and Pete DuPont
1984- Ronald Reagan (unopposed)
1980- George H. W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Howard Baker, John Connally, Phil Crane, John B. Anderson, and Bob Dole
1976- Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by PhiGam

Iowa almost always votes differently than the national polls show, I'll be shocked if it isn't Hillary vs. Huckabee or Giuliani based on the nationwide polls I've seen.

I sure hope you are wrong. With all the possibility in the fields right now, with those candidate, I feel like most of us would be right back to maybe bothering to vote simply to vote against someone.

[nittanyalum]

^^^LOL. Yeah, no kidding.