So is imitation really the sincerest form of flattery?

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

I think they looked cute.

No they didn't, especially having the black dude as part of the act to make them look more hip. That didn't help, that just made them look even more pathetic to me.

Then, whoever the joker was who put this on youtube had the nerve to say "This is how stepping is done." Probably a member who was trying to say something, but didn't.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

As long as some other GC members (IFC) can make comments about us, then I can make comments about your glos.

Greek unity? White and black greeks are still largely segregated, which was started by IFC and NPC glos. It's 2007 and you still practice this. Why?

Who is the YOU and what is the THIS. Neither I nor my chapter discriminated among members or PNMs based on their race. My organization makes it a policy not to discriminate based on race. I don't deny there are racist members of my organization, but I haven't met one, and I wouldn't let it slide if I did. Events that bring all organizations together are designed specifically to prevent/mitigate/resolve the separation of the NPC and IFC and the NPHC. Honestly, the most common complaint I hear is that XYZ invited the D9 groups to participate but got no response. So, to do what you did: Why are YOU still doing THIS? It's not that simple is it?


[QUOTE=PrettyBoy;1526164]No they didn't, especially having the black dude as part of the act to make them look more hip. That didn't help, that just made them look even more pathetic to me.

/QUOTE] Odds are he was one of their coaches.

[PrettyBoy]

[quote=Drolefille;1526179]Who is the YOU and what is the THIS. Neither I nor my chapter discriminated among members or PNMs based on their race. My organization makes it a policy not to discriminate based on race. I don't deny there are racist members of my organization, but I haven't met one, and I wouldn't let it slide if I did. Events that bring all organizations together are designed specifically to prevent/mitigate/resolve the separation of the NPC and IFC and the NPHC. Honestly, the most common complaint I hear is that XYZ invited the D9 groups to participate but got no response. So, to do what you did: Why are YOU still doing THIS? It's not that simple is it?[quote]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

No they didn't, especially having the black dude as part of the act to make them look more hip. That didn't help, that just made them look even more pathetic to me.

/QUOTE] Odds are he was one of their coaches.

When I said you, I didn't mean "you" Drolefille. I meant groups under your umbrella group. Sorry I didn't clarify that better.

I already know your founders judged women based on color. My question to you is how long was it before your organization allowed the 1st non-white to become a member? A long time wasn't it?

Oh yeah, I've heard of that too. I heard D9 members being invited to IFC/NPC events and didn't show. That's nothing new to me.

I don't know who the joker was in the video, and you don't either. Rather he was a trainer or not, doesn't make a difference. The way I saw it was they seemed to have used this joker to make them look more hip. He looked like a damn fool to me.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

No they didn't, especially having the black dude as part of the act to make them look more hip. That didn't help, that just made them look even more pathetic to me.

Then, whoever the joker was who put this on youtube had the nerve to say "This is how stepping is done." Probably a member who was trying to say something, but didn't.

PB, I don't think you get the context of saying they were cute.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

PB, I don't think you get the context of saying they were cute.

At 1st I didn't. I do now. LOL. Thanks for that.
If that's what it means then I'll say they were VERY cute. LMAO!

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

No they didn't, especially having the black dude as part of the act to make them look more hip. That didn't help, that just made them look even more pathetic to me.

They looked cute to me. Not particularly on point in every move, but cute because they seemed to be having fun and were representing THEIR sorority.

I agree with you about the black dude but that could easily be interpreted as a shout out to whoever helped them.

[Low C Sharp]

It bothers me because some jokers have the tendency to take and eventually later on down the road call it their own.

No question, the KKGs were not even playing the same sport as the other groups linked. They were having fun and trying something new.

But it seems pretty silly to me to get huffy about "borrowing" unless your organization was the one that came up with the idea of a national group with local chapters around the country, named with three Greek letters that stand for a secret motto revealed only during a ritual initiation ceremony, along with a secret grip, coat of arms, and a distinctive membership badge. Every group after Phi Beta Kappa took that whole idea part and parcel and ran with it. I am sure you call yours "your own"! And as a PBK member, I think that's great.
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[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

No question, the KKGs were not even playing the same sport as the other groups linked. They were having fun and trying something new

I've been to plenty of NPHC stepshows that were done for fun only and they still looked awesome. KK whatever did not.

[Low C Sharp]

KK whatever did not.

I'm trying to imagine the fireworks around here if an NPC member referred to KAPsi as "Kappa Alpha whatever." If you expect others to treat you with respect -- and I'm sure you do -- then show respect to others.
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[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

I'm trying to imagine the fireworks around here if an NPC member referred to KAPsi as "Kappa Alpha whatever."

I would absolutely condone it.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

I'm trying to imagine the fireworks around here if an NPC member referred to KAPsi as "Kappa Alpha whatever." If you expect others to treat you with respect -- and I'm sure you do -- then show respect to others.

Wouldn't bother me if someone said Delta Sigma whatever. I would just assume they are not familiar enough with the org to remember the whole name.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

I'm trying to imagine the fireworks around here if an NPC member referred to KAPsi as "Kappa Alpha whatever." If you expect others to treat you with respect -- and I'm sure you do -- then show respect to others.

It wouldn't bother me if an NPC member referred to us as Kappa Alpha whatever. Actually we've been called much worse. How about Kappa Alpha "Nig" if you want to get detailed about it. One historical reason for changing our original name to Kappa Alpha Psi. This was said probably by one of your organizations on the campus of IU. Typical. You all have a history of judging people by skin color, and at some colleges you still do. I can't see how anyone can tell a man or woman you don't fit in because you're not white. What kind of crap is that? I've seen it on GC several times. There's three members on here who have totally disrespected our organizations. I've even read some posts on here from the same three jokers about blacks not fitting in to IFC/NPC glos, that's why they don't get voted on. As far as I'm concerned that's BS.

I don't hate anyone, I have three close friends, two are NPCers and one IFCer and I don't have anything against them as individuals. Infact I enjoy their company. I've been in the same discussions with them about this very topic. We've learned to agree to disagree.

All I said was that this sorority looked pathetic, and my opinion hasn't changed.

[PrettyInPink777]

I have to admit I actively disliked seeing the KKGs expressing themselves with this 'stepping' or 'strolling'. It was really poorly done ... I may have felt differently if they had rocked it ....? not sure. Maybe I'm old-school (okay, I am old-school!), but I prefer to see stepping maintained as a BGLO expression. There is sooooo much borrowing, and then coopting, of African-American expressions without acknowledgement or appreciation of the origins .. well, it can be hard to take. I'm sure the girls meant no harm, tho'.

That being said, I have a special place in my heart for KKG, because my room-mate was a KKG sister and she supported me MAJORLY when I 'pledged' .... Go Holly!

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by PrettyInPink777

I have to admit I actively disliked seeing the KKGs expressing themselves with this 'stepping' or 'strolling'. It was really poorly done ... I may have felt differently if they had rocked it ....? not sure. Maybe I'm old-school (okay, I am old-school!), but I prefer to see stepping maintained as a BGLO expression. There is sooooo much borrowing, and then coopting, of African-American expressions without acknowledgement or appreciation of the origins .. well, it can be hard to take.

I agree.

[DSTCHAOS]

This is apparently about so much more than stepping for PrettyBoy.

But this topic is only about stepping for many people and especially for many members of the NPC. How do I know? Because this and similar topics have been topics for yeaaaaars in mixed settings.

So since PrettyBoy is talking about racism and what not, let us be reminded that those types of discussions don't do well on GreekChat. Plus that topic seems a bit misplaced, anyway.