Ideas needed

[skurfer]

In the past we have invited over the women's volleyball team and women's soccer team for a little KY Twister. It's lots of fun for brothers and it gets potentials around as well. You don't have to drink, but you can order the wings. Hooters has nothing on that.

[dever860]

Originally Posted by skurfer

In the past we have invited over the women's volleyball team and women's soccer team for a little KY Twister. It's lots of fun for brothers and it gets potentials around as well. You don't have to drink, but you can order the wings. Hooters has nothing on that.

Unfortunately we live in the days of PHA, and the 5 or 10 girls rule (I can't remember which). I don't know how it is at other school but here at OSU, there can be no more then X number of sorority girls from any single house at your fraternity house at any given time. This is a PHA rule not an IFC rule, so we could care less. The sorority girls are scared to death to break it, if they do they get sanctions.

I totally respect the point of the rule and what they are trying to accomplish with it, but it makes it very hard for us when we are amicably trying to host an event with a sorority. They are currently trying to change it.

[john1082]

Originally Posted by dever860

Unfortunately we live in the days of PHA, and the 5 or 10 girls rule (I can't remember which). I don't know how it is at other school but here at OSU, there can be no more then X number of sorority girls from any single house at your fraternity house at any given time. This is a PHA rule not an IFC rule, so we could care less. The sorority girls are scared to death to break it, if they do they get sanctions.

I totally respect the point of the rule and what they are trying to accomplish with it, but it makes it very hard for us when we are amicably trying to host an event with a sorority. They are currently trying to change it.

I've never heard of a rule like that. Odd

[dever860]

Section 2. RESOLUTION GUIDELINES

• More than ten (10) women from the same chapter constitutes sponsorship of a function. If a chapter’s headquarters’ policy is stricter, the chapter must follow that policy.

Basically you have to fill out a bunch of paperwork, and get it approved by a bunch of people. It is possible to have events at a fraternity house, but its usually easier to find somewhere else to host the event then have it at your own house. Ironically enough the sororities can host as many fraternity members at their houses as they want. Red tape makes things hard. There is some other rule that says something about fraternity houses or something, I can't find it (too much work to find). Everyone tells me it exists.

[Ottor 246]

So do they have to go to the dining hall in shifts or what?

[dever860]

Originally Posted by Ottor 246

So do they have to go to the dining hall in shifts or what?

The whole rule makes no sense to me. The idea behind it I suppose is that they think if there are any more than 10 girls at any one place there is a better chance that one of the guys will try and take advantage of them? Seems to me its backwards, the more girls at any event the safer the will be. Anyone who has ever been to a TG with a sorority knows they don't let each other out of their sight. I wont even pretend to know how they think.

[PiLambda1]

Originally Posted by dever860

The whole rule makes no sense to me. The idea behind it I suppose is that they think if there are any more than 10 girls at any one place there is a better chance that one of the guys will try and take advantage of them? Seems to me its backwards, the more girls at any event the safer the will be. Anyone who has ever been to a TG with a sorority knows they don't let each other out of their sight. I wont even pretend to know how they think.

Well, I was always told that if there are more than three Lambda Chis
in one place it could be construed as a fraternity event. So, we often
had to consider well attending other functions and whether or not it
would break this rule and look like it was our event if something happened.

[Ottor 246]

Originally Posted by PiLambda1

Well, I was always told that if there are more than three Lambda Chis
in one place it could be construed as a fraternity event. So, we often
had to consider well attending other functions and whether or not it
would break this rule and look like it was our event if something happened.

I'm sure liability and not overly affectionate fraternity men is the pivotal issue here. I don't remember the number, but Lambda Chi does have a similar rule. Anytime we were in the dining hall or whatever and another brother would come in, we'd tell one of the ones who was already there to leave so we wouldn't have to file paperwork. Of course we were just kidding. Rules like this are made for good reasons, but you need to use common sense as to when they apply.

Does PHA have a police force or something? Who do these girls think is going to catch them?

[john1082]

FIPG and risk management and numbers has always been a bit murky. I suspect that the "Ten Sister Rule" has some sort of risk management policy at it's root. I am not aware of anything that lists a hard, fast number for FIPG purposes, Percentages, yes. Hard specific body counts, no.

Certainly attending class would never be considered a fraternity event, no matter how many guys are there - there is no fraternity purpose in going to the class, the purpose is to get smart.

Meeting after class at a local campus hang out is a different matter and it could, under some circumstances, fall into that FIPG murky hole of "what is a fraternity event?".

An exchange with the the Alpha Beta Gamma sorority would be a fraternity event.

Some rush and recruitment events could be considered fraternity events but I don't know how many chapters go through the drill of filling out and retaining the form as required by FIPG rules.

[dever860]

Originally Posted by Ottor 246

I'm sure liability and not overly affectionate fraternity me is the pivotal issue here. I don't remember the number, but Lambda Chi does have a similar rule. Anytime we were in the dining hall or whatever and another brother would come in, we'd tell one of the ones who was already there to leave so we wouldn't have to file paperwork. Of course we were just kidding. Rules like this are made for good reasons, but you need to use common sense as to when they apply.

Does PHA have a police force or something? Who do these girls think is going to catch them?

Ive always been told that they are afraid other houses are going to tell on them if they find out, girls talk a lot I guess. There is a police force of sorts, they send ifc/pha delegates to registered events to check if everyone is following the rules. One of those better safe then sorry, people can get in a lot of trouble these days. Its real easy to get kicked off campus in these modern times.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by skurfer

In the past we have invited over the women's volleyball team and women's soccer team for a little KY Twister. It's lots of fun for brothers and it gets potentials around as well. You don't have to drink, but you can order the wings. Hooters has nothing on that.

First off, welcome to GC!

As we all know, LXA is against recruitment functions which includes alcohol, ergo, do not do it.

Get the party mode started then it will expand. Harsh as it may sound, I think many older Brothers are aware of what I am refering to.

Of course being one of the older members, it is sometimes hard to relate, but, the rules still exist.

So, something else must be included!

Ladies!!!

Horse Shoes and give them a shorter playing field or washers, same as horse shoes and easier for them to use. Volley ball, bowling, and pool or darts. Do teams with a he and she team. Get the ladies involved then guys have more fun!

So, if volley ball, or horse shoes, have a BBQ for food and soft drinks inconjunction. Food is always welcome!

[dever860]

Originally Posted by Dave J 1233

Yeah, one of my goals has been to try and get up to Marietta or OSU sometime, just to see how other chapters are. I've haven't really met any other Lambda Chis besides the ones from my own chapter. That'll change in the summer with Summer Conference, but I'd like to try and make some trips before that.

Some of your new guys from OU were here last night. Can't remember their names but couple of them said they went through winter quarter. Real nice guys. They were better behaved then my guys last night. Welcome anytime.

[Dave J 1233]

Well behaved? Must be mistaken. lol

[dever860]

Originally Posted by Dave J 1233

Well behaved? Must be mistaken. lol

The guys were from Hilliard, at least some of them were. Still cant remember their names. One of them I think we are going to let live here this summer.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by Dave J 1233

Well behaved? Must be mistaken. lol

Dave you may be very well correct but We can only hope ALL Brothers are acting like Brothers!

I have the same reaction from my reception I had there!