CPC and NPHC Sororities: An Official Study on the Differences and Silimarities

[12dn94dst]

In addition to agreeing with what's been said regarding the validity of this survey, I'd be interested to know who in an alumnae chapter, particularly a rather large one (over 200 members) is friends (in the true sense of the word) with or has even seen ALL of the members of her chapter. And at that level, is it important to be FRIENDS with all the members of the chapter? I'd have to agree, this survey is clearly from a collegiate standpoint.

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

No, very honestly it was the question about how long you have been in your org. I just answered another survey that listed the years in a way more relevant to NPHC sororities. Four year are more does not even begin to give the suveyor a sense of NPHC sororities.

4 years or more wouldn't begin to describe NPC's either......I'm at 19 already.

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I still say messageboards are not for homework, but once I clicked on the link I was blinded by Barbie-pink (stereotype, much?). Please. Make it a more normal color, that way you won't blind people.

Yes, the pink was a little blinding.

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

The survey certainly seems a bit unprofessional. It seems that if it was a sanctioned senior project for some school it would be on the school's server and not a free server with no name or school information listed anywhere. And bright pink???? Are you really wanting to be taken seriously?

AND the NPC consists of INTERnational groups unlike what you say on your website.

[33girl]

The wording of this question makes no sense:

12. How would you feel about a member of your sorority who is not current with your sorority's foundation (i.e. founding date, founding location, founders, etc)?

How can you be "current" with that? Do the founders change? If you mean they don't have those things memorized, then say so.

Oh and by the way, it's alumna/alumnae.

Bad survey, would not take again.

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

Originally Posted by 33girl

The wording of this question makes no sense:

12. How would you feel about a member of your sorority who is not current with your sorority's foundation (i.e. founding date, founding location, founders, etc)?

How can you be "current" with that? Do the founders change? If you mean they don't have those things memorized, then say so.

Uh, yah agreed. The part not in the parentheses seems to be asking about donating money to our Foundations and not that other stuff. And that information is pretty well ingrained (spelling?) in us anyway.....

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

MESSAGEBOARDS ARE NOT FOR HOMEWORK!

Haha... I like that...

sfksfl07 = ?

Because you know she reposted her name and we can figure it out with the IP address or something like that...

Then, we should wonder if her "process" was legit--who voted her in? Because, I know for my Sorority, it is a suspendable infraction. My Soror Babs ain't playing this year or next year... Folks will be kicked out without provocation...

[PhDiva]

My concern with the NPHC survey is that no distinction has been made between members who join at the collegiate or alumnae level. That needs to be accounted for in NPHC orgs. I came into SGRho at the alumnae level and I'm very new to the organization. But my age, past academic career, current job standing, etc is going to shape my experience differently than a member who joined in their early 20's during undergrad.

I definitely was taken aback by the OPs rude disposition when others tried to point out the flaws in her survey. By challenging the integrity of your test construction is something you should welcome because it will save you time and energy down the road. Did you field test this survey with a sample of NPC and NPHC members at your college? Had your advisor required this, you would have been in a better position to spot errors, poorly worded questions, etc. Any college professor worth his or her salt would demand this of their students esp. if they are conducting quantitative research.

I fail to see the educational significance of this study beyond NPC and NPHC getting to know one another. So what? Is having this knowledge going to result in collaboration on a few service and social programs? Is this going to help NPC sororities learn how to better market themselves as diverse or help NPHC sororities market themselves as multicultural and therefore more open to non-African Americans? I think the purpose of the study needs to be fleshed out more thoroughly and included in the description of the survey. Also, it's bit suspect when you do not list your name and college information when doing a survey because it seems to me that you have not gotten Human Subjects approval to conduct this study. In just about any university in the US, you need this approval from the Institutional Research Board b/c if they discover you did not go through Human Subjects Review, your degree can be revoked and they would publicly censure your advisor.

I think questions #14-16 need to come before #10 because #10 gives the impression that everyone came through an undergraduate pledge process. #12 should probably read, "How do you feel about a member of your sorority who is unfamiliar with the organization's founders, founding date and location and guiding principles?" In its current form, it's likely that someone will misinterpret the intent of the question.

#13 - with regards to the NPHC again, members can join at the alumnae level so this question needs to be explicitly directed toward members who joined at the undergrad level or removed altogether. (Probably removed because it sounds like a question more specific to members of NPC sororities).

Instead of asking participants to name their founding year, location, mascot and founders, why not simply ask "which sorority do you belong?" Or are you trying to assess a person's commitment to the orgs. by quizzing them on their organization's history?

Rework some of the questions for the NPHC sororities and I think your results will yield better data. I refuse to submit my survey because the fact that I joined as a Alumnae/Grad member will schew your results.

PhDiva

[IncontRHOllable]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

sfks...,
Can I safely assume you are not a Delta or an AKA, since you would not have answered your sorors thusly on a public message board?

Ladygreek, after looking at the "survey" and reading the OP responses, I HIGHLY doubt she is a member of a NPHC sorority. We may be members of different sororities, but respect for sisters in the Divine 9 is priceless....

[IncontRHOllable]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Based on the questions you are asking in your survey, you have failed to allow respondants to give you their truest and probably more realistic answers. You ask for the satisfaction of joining a NPHC sorority and if one would want to change if they could. What statistical measurement would legitimately establish the similarities or differences of a NPC organization and a NPHC sorority when one can only join 1 NPHC sorority for life? You should know this information and knowledge of this information makes this point moot.

Establishing the primary reasons for joining a NPHC sorority, the listing is superfluous. It should be ranked. There are many primary reasons. Some sillier than others. But what you want is quantifiable data, not randomizations without P-values. You do not have a null hypothesis based on your questions. Therefore, your Gaussian distribution will not give you any kind of post survey testing for an F-test.

Forget my vernacular, you have just got me started with full usage of my Doctorate... You understand what I mean. That is why I asking about academic review. I completely fail to understand your logic with question 9. What are you asking? Why do you ask it? Most of my sorority sisters have post-secondary degrees...

You are going to have to tolerate harsh criticism and evaluation if you write surveys that you want people to support it. You may as well let us do it you while we cannot see you rather than having another Doctorate flunk you based their extremely limited knowledge of the problem or issue. Regardless of your own professor, it has YET to matter with these kinds of things. Others are going to what know what your thoughts are about it by yourself with questions. I know, been there, done that, have a T-shirt.

I am reminding you, DO NOT GET EMOTIONAL! I am telling you had better change some aspects of the survey. If you do not know how, I will show you if you PM me. That is not only my professional opinion, it has to do with the fullness of the scientific method.

Two snaps in a circle....