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10-04-2006, 01:56 PM
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My friend emailed me this today. It's so terrible that it's funny:
Q: Why don’t GOP congressman use bookmarks?
A: They don’t need to; they simply bend over the pages.
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10-04-2006, 02:05 PM
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ha ha, that's the joke I heard the other day and couldn't remember how it went. Thanks!
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10-04-2006, 11:36 PM
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Do any of these mention - as the Drudge Report and ABC News now report - the page involved was 21 at the time?
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ABC ONLINE GLITCH LEADS TO IDENTITY OF FOLEY ACCUSER
FEATURED IM EXCHANGE WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD
Wed Oct 04 2006 20:32:06 ET
A posting on ABCNEWS.COM of an unredacted instant message sessions between Rep. Mark Foley and a former congressional page has exposed the identity of the now 21 year-old accuser.
The website PASSIONATE AMERICA detailed the startling exposure late Wednesday.
ABCNEWS said in a statement: "We go to great lengths to prevent the names of alleged sex crime victims from being revealed. On Friday there was a very brief technical glitch on our site which was overridden immediately. It is possible that during that very brief interval a screen name could have been captured. Reviews of the site since then show no unredacted screen names."
SEX CHAT WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD
On Tuesday ABC news released a high-impact instant message exchange between Foley and, as ABC explained, a young man "under the age of 18."
ABC headlined the story: "New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote"
But upon reviewing the records, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned, the young man was in fact over the age of 18 at the time of the exchange.
A network source explains, messages with the young man and disgraced former Congressman Foley took place before and after the 18th birthday.
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10-04-2006, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ann.coulter2
Do any of these mention - as the Drudge Report and ABC News now report - the page involved was 21 at the time?
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ABC ONLINE GLITCH LEADS TO IDENTITY OF FOLEY ACCUSER
FEATURED IM EXCHANGE WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD
Wed Oct 04 2006 20:32:06 ET
A posting on ABCNEWS.COM of an unredacted instant message sessions between Rep. Mark Foley and a former congressional page has exposed the identity of the now 21 year-old accuser.
The website PASSIONATE AMERICA detailed the startling exposure late Wednesday.
ABCNEWS said in a statement: "We go to great lengths to prevent the names of alleged sex crime victims from being revealed. On Friday there was a very brief technical glitch on our site which was overridden immediately. It is possible that during that very brief interval a screen name could have been captured. Reviews of the site since then show no unredacted screen names."
SEX CHAT WAS WITH 18 YEAR OLD
On Tuesday ABC news released a high-impact instant message exchange between Foley and, as ABC explained, a young man "under the age of 18."
ABC headlined the story: "New Foley Instant Messages; Had Internet Sex While Awaiting House Vote"
But upon reviewing the records, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned, the young man was in fact over the age of 18 at the time of the exchange.
A network source explains, messages with the young man and disgraced former Congressman Foley took place before and after the 18th birthday.
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Nothing about being 21 at the time e-mails took place. Is page is NOW 21.
The questions seem to be if under 18 at the time.
And IMHO, even if between 16 and 18, there still are major problems.
And on ABC's site, I found this link, nothing about age.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/...t_message.html
We all can, and do, miss read numbers. Not a problem.
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10-04-2006, 11:40 PM
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age really isn't a factor in this, at least not to me, its just that....that is like if your boss asks you out, I mean that is going to get icky, but I don't know what the age of consent is in DC i think its 16 in Del and 18 in VA & MD but right now its 20 to 12 and I gotta be up for work, so......
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10-05-2006, 09:54 AM
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Pages are hs juniors. They are required to be at least 16 years of age.
Interns are college students. There is no minimum age requirement but presumably 17+ even if they are rising college freshmen.
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It is much too easy to identify the victim when it is said which Congressman was the sponsor of a specific Page. The Representatives never sponsor more than 1 per session. If the name of the specific sponsoring Congressman had been kept under wraps, there would be speculation as to what Page was contacted by Foley, not such certainty.
"Congressman X is my Representative. Wait a minute, didn't that guy in my algebra class go to DC for some government thing in hs a couple of years ago? Must be him. I wonder if he swings that way...."
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10-05-2006, 10:45 AM
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Of course ABC isn't gonna mention that they screwed up, or that the kid may have been of legal age. Drudge shows it, because Drudge doesn't care whether the Democrats win back congress or not...ABC on the other hand...
Not to say getting to the bottom of this isn't important, I just think its telling how ABC and CNN will paste "HASTERT KNEW!!! HE SHOULD RESIGN" when the facts aren't out. I haven't heard anyone from CNN or ABC mention that the emails and such reported to Hastert were only the katrina and picture ones. I mean, if Hastert did know and took no/poor action, then sure, but at least tell both sides, gee. I don't really like Hastert as speaker, but its just annoying to flip on CNN and hear a "journalist" talk about how the GOP should lose the house because of their inaction on the Foley thing.
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10-05-2006, 12:17 PM
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I just think its telling how ABC and CNN will paste "HASTERT KNEW!!! HE SHOULD RESIGN" when the facts aren't out.
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The folks I've heard or read about saying Hastert should resign are politicians -- Republicans and Democrats, not news organizations. The latter quotes what the former said.
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10-05-2006, 12:55 PM
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I fail to see how "age of consent" or "legal age" has any bearing on conversations, whether by IM, PM, e-mail, or in person. Last I knew, freedom of speech is not restricted by age.
There may be minimum ages for driving, buying alcohol, and HAVING sex, but talking about it?
Whereas most boys begin masturbating between the ages of 11 and 13, will there now be a law prohibiting them from discussing it with any adult, by any means, until they are 18? It would certainly cast us back to the age of puritanism, fear, and guilt.
Will there be no more sex education, or would it have to be taught by a minor???
I read the IMs and it's obvious the kid was having fun talking freely about his techniques and even fetishes. It was guy talk.
I see this whole thing as nothing more than a witch hunt promulgated by those with sexual hang-ups, political agendas, and the media who are happy to blow anything "shocking" out of proportion.
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10-05-2006, 01:04 PM
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Freedom of speech does not apply to sexual harassment of a minor that is under your supervision.
If a 30 year old guy IMs his 27 year old secretary and asks her what she's wearing, it's sexual harassment, regardless of age of consent, etc.
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10-05-2006, 01:18 PM
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The folks I've heard or read about saying Hastert should resign are politicians -- Republicans and Democrats, not news organizations. The latter quotes what the former said.
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The Washington Times, not exactly a liberal rag, called for Hastert to resign in an editorial.
Here is the link.
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10-05-2006, 01:39 PM
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Well . . . only if it bothers her.
Sexual harrassment is more a crime of perception than anything else.
Oddly enough, if a 30 year old woman IMs her 27 year old male secretary its generally not regarded the same.
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Freedom of speech does not apply to sexual harassment of a minor that is under your supervision.
If a 30 year old guy IMs his 27 year old secretary and asks her what she's wearing, it's sexual harassment, regardless of age of consent, etc.
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10-05-2006, 07:23 PM
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Freedom of speech does not apply to sexual harassment
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You are absolutely right, but the IMs I read were not about harassment.
The easy manner in which the youngster wrote, and the length of time he stayed online, indicate he appreciated the (possibly rare) occasion to talk openly with an adult male about sexual topics. He could have logged off at any time.
He was not under the supervision of the Congressman; rather he was worried his mom might see the conversation.
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10-05-2006, 07:40 PM
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Nevertheless, it is inappropriate for any Congressman (male or female) to be talking to any Page (past or present, male or female) in any slightly suggestive manner.
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10-05-2006, 08:46 PM
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The Washington Times, not exactly a liberal rag, called for Hastert to resign in an editorial.
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That's a newspaper. They don't have to worry about the FCC and equal opportunity. They can be editorialize all they want.
And, there's a huge difference between a report and an editorial.
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