Can a racial slur ever "slip?" - Page 3

DeltAlum · #31 06-01-2006, 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by PerfectVerse06
Good post, DeltAlum. I see what you're saying!

Thanks. I'm pleased that it made at least some sense.

BobbyTheDon · #32 06-02-2006, 12:49 PM

Mazle Tov biatch!

One time I went to a Jewish wedding, and I wore a Yamika. And I ran around saying " Mazle Tov" to all the other jiggity jiggity Jews up in the room.

They were cool with it.

eta: My best friend that is black calls me " nig" or " niyah" So I call her "nig" back, or sometimes I say " nooka". She is cool with it too. Should I not call her that? I mean, we are friends and all. Friends since age 11 mang!

mulattogyrl · #33 06-02-2006, 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
jiggity jiggity Jews

LMAO

PerfectVerse06 · #34 06-02-2006, 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
Mazle Tov biatch!

One time I went to a Jewish wedding, and I wore a Yamika. And I ran around saying " Mazle Tov" to all the other jiggity jiggity Jews up in the room.

They were cool with it.

eta: My best friend that is black calls me " nig" or " niyah" So I call her "nig" back, or sometimes I say " nooka". She is cool with it too. Should I not call her that? I mean, we are friends and all. Friends since age 11 mang!

LOL!!!

The difference is that everyone was cool with what you were saying because of the nature of your relationship with the other person. Senusret was obviously uncomfortable with what was said because that is not a common thing in their friendship.

PM_Mama00 · #35 06-02-2006, 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
I disagree. One time after having a few while we were out with some friends who happen to be gay, something slipped out of my mouth that might be considered insensitive and/or offensive to gay people -- I'm not sure it would be, but yeah, probably. It's something I haven't said since HIGH SCHOOL but there it was. I was mortified but tried to play it off and I really, really hope it either didn't offend them or they let it go because it's not something I normally say and I meant absolutely nothing by it. It was just a stupid phrase we used to use to refer to things that were far away -- where it came from now, I have no idea.

I do that all the time around my cousin, who is a lesbian. I'll be like "That's gay" but she knows I don't mean anything disrespectful of the gay population. Now another gay individual I know... we say "f*g" all the time to him (when he's around) and he doesn't care. Obviously that's different than when it comes to race.

I know that many African Americans on GC don't even like the N word being said in songs. I have a question about that... what if someone is just singing along with the song and says it un-noticeably cuz they're just singing and not really paying attention? My friend was singing Tupac's "Hit Em Up" at karaoke last night and she always leaves out "N" but last night it slipped. No one said anything to her tho because they know she always leaves it out.

starang21 · #36 06-02-2006, 01:46 PM

they can slip in tounge, but not in thought.

Dionysus · #37 06-02-2006, 02:02 PM

I have not let any slurs slip out, I don't use them. Though I have said some non-pc things without thinking.

As with others, I have had the opposite issue. People say offensive things intentionally, but say that they're definately not talking about me. I believe them, but it still doesn't make it appropiate.

NinjaPoodle · #38 06-02-2006, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by Senusret I
1) Will your relationship change?

2) Can racial slurs just "slip?"

1. Yes
2 No.

starang21 · #39 06-02-2006, 02:11 PM

i know this white girl who said "what are you doing in our country, towelhead?" to a guy of pakistani decent from chicago.

her excuse...

"i was drunk, and it slipped."

Marie · #40 06-02-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally posted by PM_Mama00

I know that many African Americans on GC don't even like the N word being said in songs. I have a question about that... what if someone is just singing along with the song and says it un-noticeably cuz they're just singing and not really paying attention? My friend was singing Tupac's "Hit Em Up" at karaoke last night and she always leaves out "N" but last night it slipped. No one said anything to her tho because they know she always leaves it out.

Personally, I prefer when people do not say the N word as they are singing a song. It makes me uncomfortable both when they and the original artist say it. Typically if it is someone that I know, then I'll just ask them not to use the word around me. However, I wouldn't really think that they were racist for repeating it, but I would think that they lacked a bit of tact for repeating it in my presence.

However, if someone did use it in their normal speech, then this would concern me and cause me to re-evaluate that person. I've heard most racial slurs in the book, and I've never just accidentally called/referred to someone as "fill in whatever insult u'd like here". I would be prone to think that either they are using the slur on a regular basis or at least thinking it in their heads. Like Starang referenced, people are very quick to blame their actions on liquor or whatever else, and I'm just not buying it. Most times those situations only lower one's inhibitions and allow them to forget to surpress their normal thoughts/speech.

While I don't believe that these words just 'slip', I would be able to forgive and move forward with someone if they used the word and simply acknowledged it and apologized. I've had friends who let the N word fly either b/c they were around others who used it and wanted to fit in (and I overheard them) or b/c they assumed that I'd be ok with that (from the impression that they receive from music and tv). However, the few genuine individuals who came to me, explained what happened, apologized, and sincerely made an effort to adjust their behavior have remained in the good graces.

AKA_Monet · #41 06-02-2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by PM_Mama00
what if someone is just singing along with the song and says it un-noticeably cuz they're just singing and not really paying attention? My friend was singing Tupac's "Hit Em Up" at karaoke last night and she always leaves out "N" but last night it slipped. No one said anything to her tho because they know she always leaves it out.

Like an invited minister from Florida said on the O'Reilly Show ~2 years ago who was trying to make the "N word" profane language, "African American kids have enough on their plate to be dealing with than to include such a derrogatory and profane word that all the rappers allow themselves to be called and use..."

I guess that flabberghasted Bill O'Reilly, because he never asked that minister back on the show...

Senusret I · #42 06-02-2006, 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by PM_Mama00
I do that all the time around my cousin, who is a lesbian. I'll be like "That's gay" but she knows I don't mean anything disrespectful of the gay population. Now another gay individual I know... we say "f*g" all the time to him (when he's around) and he doesn't care. Obviously that's different than when it comes to race.

A slur is a slur....what changes is the person who accepts it or doesn't accept it.

Anyone who calls me a fag is getting a boot to the throat.

enigma_AKA · #43 06-02-2006, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by starang21
i know this white girl who said "what are you doing in our country, towelhead?" to a guy of pakistani decent from chicago.

her excuse...

"i was drunk, and it slipped."

That's one hell of a slip.

Now those type of people get no empathy from me.

enigma_AKA

Tom Earp · #44 06-02-2006, 10:31 PM

Interesting.

Just because there is a slip of the Mouth does not mean that is wht is in the mind.

Many times there are words that are used by Racial Groups that if another Race uses it, it is fighting words.

If a Black doesn't like the word Nigga used, then maybe it would it would be a good idea not to use it in front of other Races.

People do pick up on idioms dont they?

PM_Mama00 · #45 06-03-2006, 12:48 AM

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Originally posted by Senusret I
A slur is a slur....what changes is the person who accepts it or doesn't accept it.

Anyone who calls me a fag is getting a boot to the throat.

That's exactly it. I would never say that to my cousin or her friends, or you or any other stranger. But with him it's like any other normal non-offensive word. I guess I see it as how I see swear words... I do it in front of my friends because it's not offensive to them, but I would never do it in front of my parents or family because I'd prolly get a nice wooden spoon to the face or ass.

Senusret... what do you think of the phrase "fag hag"?