Alpha Phi Alpha Joins NIC

[PerfectVerse06]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
So, some of You D 9ers dont think it is good?

Is that what You are saying?

If so, why not?

So what does your Kappa friend think about this? He does speak for all members of the Divine 9, doesn't he?




to Tom Earp's Kappa friend, if you're reading this!

[TSteven]

Originally posted by mccoyred
My question was based on my perception of your post that this was a first and a major event. Both Kappa Alpha Psi and Iota Phi Theta, NPHC fraternities, are also members of either the IFC or NIC and have been for some time...or did you not know that?

Just to be clear, the IFC (Interfraternity Council) is a local (campus specific) council while the NIC (North-American Interfraternity Conference) is international in scope. Thus a chapter that is a member of an IFC does not mean that the chapter's GLO is also a member of the NIC.

As an example, NPHC members Phi Beta Sigma and Omega Psi Phi can have chapters that are members of a campus IFC but the fraternities would not be members of the NIC.

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by TSteven
Just to be clear, the IFC (Interfraternity Council) is a local (campus specific) council while the NIC (North-American Interfraternity Conference) is international in scope. Thus a chapter that is a member of an IFC does not mean that the chapter's GLO is also a member of the NIC.

As an example, NPHC members Phi Beta Sigma and Omega Psi Phi can have chapters that are members of a campus IFC but the fraternities would not be members of the NIC.

Thanks. So if a GLO is a member of NIC then all of its chapters are mandated to pay NIC dues?

[TSteven]

Originally posted by ladygreek
Question: do individual chapters have to pay dues to the NIC or does the national HQ?

Originally posted by ktsnake
The HQ uses the money paid to it by the chapters to pay NIC's expensive dues.

5 figures for a lot of nothing.

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that each GLO's NIC dues are based on the number of the GLO's members and not simply a flat fee. Thus smaller GLOs would not pay the same in dues as larger GLOs.

[TSteven]

Originally posted by ladygreek
Thanks. So if a GLO is a member of NIC then all of its chapters are mandated to pay NIC dues?

My understanding is that dues are based on the number of members. So for most GLOs, I would venture to guess that a portion (set amount) of the fees/dues that each member pays to the chapter/IHQ goes to the NIC. While some GLOs may collect the fees differently.

[TSteven]

Originally posted by PiKA2001
Whats the point in being in both, other than having to pay both the NPHC and NIC dues?

From the University of Michigan Iota Phi Theta website. (link)

"As a member of the NIC, Iota Phi Theta is able to directly affect issues of importance to the fraternal community at large."

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by ladygreek
Thanks. So if a GLO is a member of NIC then all of its chapters are mandated to pay NIC dues?

That's true with the NPC, but the dues are really small. I think I paid $15/semester for NPC dues, which pays for general Panhellenic stuff. We also had to pay a Campus Panhel fee that went towards the rush kick-off and general supplies (like dinner for the Rho Chis and Pref Cards).

But, in keeping with what ktnsake said, the national dues kinda seem a little superfluous. What did I pay $120 for? What was it? Campus Panhel, I could see the point of.

[Rain Man]

Originally posted by TSteven
Just to be clear, the IFC (Interfraternity Council) is a local (campus specific) council while the NIC (North-American Interfraternity Conference) is international in scope. Thus a chapter that is a member of an IFC does not mean that the chapter's GLO is also a member of the NIC.

As an example, NPHC members Phi Beta Sigma and Omega Psi Phi can have chapters that are members of a campus IFC but the fraternities would not be members of the NIC.

Just to slightly expound on this:

A campus IFC can also include local GLOs along with NIC orgs as well.

While some people use the terms IFC and NIC interchangeably, it is important to keep in mind the scope that such terms should be used: IFC is local in scope, NIC is international.

Barring any rare exceptions, it appears that the dual NPHC/NIC orgs (Alpha, Kappa, and Iota) are members strictly in the international sense. Meaning, they will represent their membership at international meetings and gatherings, but rarely if ever on the local level. You probably won't see them at any IFC meetings or events very often.

Now I wonder if AKA or Delta will join the NPC....
(j/k )

[Optimist Prime]

very cool, now no excuse not to be in greek week

[DeltAlum]

I don't know much about the workings of the NIC. I know that Delt is one of the charter members and has had several presidents.

My question is: Can anything that fosters communications on a national/international level be all bad?

[Rudey]

First there's a Pike chapter at Howard and now APA joins the NIC? What's next? The inter-mingling of races?

-Rudey
--Quip

[KSigkid]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
I don't know much about the workings of the NIC. I know that Delt is one of the charter members and has had several presidents.

My question is: Can anything that fosters communications on a national/international level be all bad?

No, not at all. Kappa Sig and other fraternities have had their reasons for leaving.

[MysticCat]

Originally posted by KSigkid
Exactly - that's one of the reasons we're former members of the NIC.

Didn't Phi Delta Theta withdraw from the NIC as well?

[KSigkid]

Originally posted by MysticCat81
Didn't Phi Delta Theta withdraw from the NIC as well?

I believe so, right around the same time we did.

[TSteven]

Originally posted by Rain Man
Just to slightly expound on this:

A campus IFC can also include local GLOs along with NIC orgs as well.

While some people use the terms IFC and NIC interchangeably, it is important to keep in mind the scope that such terms should be used: IFC is local in scope, NIC is international.

Thank you for the clarification. And to slightly expound on your post:

Depending on the specific campus' IFC by-laws, it is possible that any/all fraternity chapters on campus could be a member of that campus' IFC. This may include, but certainly is not limited to, the following organizations.

Local fraternities, professional fraternities, unaffiliated national social fraternities, multicultural fraternities, special interest fraternities, members of the Fraternity Leadership Association (FLA)*, members of the National Association of Latino Fraternal Organizations (NALFO), members of the National Multicultural Greek Council (NMGC), members of the National Pan-Hellenic Council (NPHC), as well as members of the North-American Interfraternity Conference (NIC).

It is more likely that non NIC/FLA members join the IFC when there is no other umbrella group for them on that campus.

*Fraternity Leadership Association members (may be others)
Delta Kappa Epsilon (also NIC member)
Kappa Sigma
Phi Sigma Kappa (also NIC member)
Sigma Alpha Epsilon (also NIC member)
Sigma Lambda Beta (also NALFO and NIC member)
Sigma Pi (also NIC member)