The stupidest thing I have ever heard someone pull the race card on

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by KSigkid
Maybe I'm not seeing this the right way; a school that has trouble drawing for their own games (10,000 average attendance) wants a school in a higher division, that doesn't even have to play them, to give them a large amount of tickets. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense from South Carolina's perspective to amp up the number of tickets for SC State.

I understand where SC State fans are frustrated, but the school is getting money for playing the game, and South Carolina is doing SC State a big favor by even agreeing to play them. The money will make a difference at the school. Also, the recruiting help (athletes may go to SC State if they know they can play against at least one D1 school) could be priceless.

I do agree with you from an economics and policy standpoint. But, I can think of a few 1-AA vs. 1-A games where people from the 1-AA showed up in drones. Even people who had not previously supported the team for whatever reason or who lived far away. If USC gives them more tickets it would really be a favor and nothing more. It would really suck if the SCSU fans didn't attend as predicted, although I think they will.

I'm glad you do at least understand their frustration. You're right that there will be benefits to playing USC. In addition to that, also think of how SCSU wants to keep its supporters happy. Many of these supporters want the here and now of being at the game.

ETA: I just read PerfectVerse and Jitterbug's posts. I agree with both of you.

General statement: All in all, this topic isn't a huge deal but the fact that this thread was presented as "oh, look...another (black) person playing the race card" is a huge deal to me. We have more enough threads like that on GC and more than enough ranting about that in the real world. Instead of assuming, people should take a step back and find what is embedded in such topics and in people's choices of words.

[macallan25]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
Based on the article, it doesn't seem as though the elected official was saying that SCSU was being discriminated against based on race.

This isn't to be confused with someone playing the "race card" (stupid phrase). The people who know about the logistics and policies behind the matter know that it is an economic issue and not a race issue.

I disagree:

Ford wrote the 2,000 tickets were "irreverent and derided the African American community by limiting the school's ability to sell more tickets."

"For them to offer South Carolina State 2,000 tickets is a big insult and total disrespect to black people in South Carolina and black folks are already mad," Ford said. "It was an irresponsible, stupid mistake."

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
Based on the article, it doesn't seem as though the elected official was saying that SCSU was being discriminated against based on race.

Respectfully, I disagree ever after re-reading the posted article several times.

But my original point still stands in my opinion -- that the fact that only 2,000 tickets were offered is an economic decision only.

Taking into account an 80,000 seat stadium with over 60,000 season tickets and a student body which probably gets less tickets than they probably should at any game, it still comes down to not only filling all of the seats with warm bodies, but also placating the home fans who might not be able to see a game otherwise -- and who will in the future be some of those season ticket holders.

The alums and future alums are perceived as more important than people from an opposing team' school.

I do think the topic of the thread is a bit overblown, though.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
But my original point still stands in my opinion.

So does mine.

[kstar]

Originally posted by macallan25
Every school is going to play worthless, no contest games. Its no different for teams like us (Texas), when we play Sam Houston St. and beat them 80-3.

Or even Baylor.

[Tom Earp]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
So does mine.

In what form?

In what perspective?

[macallan25]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
So does mine.

Which was what exactly........

It is pretty clear by the statments that they were based on racial discrimination.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by macallan25
It is pretty clear by the statments that they were based on racial discrimination.

No.

If it was "clear" or even obvious just based on reading the article, there wouldn't be room for differing opinions on the matter.

[macallan25]

It seems as if you are the only one that thinks differently....from what I can tell on this page.

I really don't see how you can interpret those statements that I copy and pasted any differently than the fact that they were geared towards accusations of racial discrimination.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by macallan25
from what I can tell on this page.

Exactly. Greekchat opinions are never the end all and be all.

[KSigkid]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
I'm glad you do at least understand their frustration. You're right that there will be benefits to playing USC. In addition to that, also think of how SCSU wants to keep its supporters happy. Many of these supporters want the here and now of being at the game.

I went undergrad at a school (Boston U.) with no football program, and will be attending law school at a school (UConn) with a relatively new D1 program. I can understand wanting as many tickets as possible for a rare opportunity; a game against a solid D1 program.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by KSigkid
I went undergrad at a school (Boston U.) with no football program, and will be attending law school at a school (UConn) with a relatively new D1 program. I can understand wanting as many tickets as possible for a rare opportunity; a game against a solid D1 program.

We have something in common. One of my schools was 1-AA and participated in a rare opportunity. Another of my schools had no football team.

[PerfectVerse06]

It is pretty clear by the statments that they were based on racial discrimination.

Do you believe the title of this thread is any better than the statements Ford made?

The title itself affected me negatively because, as DSTCHAOS mentioned, the phrase 'race card' is ridiculous. But I feel personally about the situation because it involves my alma mater.

Granted, I will admit that I didn't follow Gamecock football as extensively as others do while I was a student, but I still stand firm in my belief that this game is going to draw a large amount of spectators.

I'm tired of grown people playing the "I am right, you are wrong" game like children. What is so hard about listening to what other people have to say, trying to gain an understanding of why they feel the way they feel, and discussing it like adults?

Why not try to understand WHY Ford feels SC State should be allotted more tickets? After reading some of these posts, I can see why some people believe that State shouldn't get more tickets. I UNDERSTAND the counter-argument, and I respect their stance. It doesn't really change my stance, but I can respect what others are saying.

Why can't some of you do the same thing? What's the problem?

Step out of your bubbles and realize that there's a whole world out there filled with people who have opinions that are diverse and might not be the same as yours.

[Phasad1913]

Originally posted by PerfectVerse06
Do you believe the title of this thread is any better than the statements Ford made?

The title itself affected me negatively because, as DSTCHAOS mentioned, the phrase 'race card' is ridiculous. But I feel personally about the situation because it involves my alma mater.

Granted, I will admit that I didn't follow Gamecock football as extensively as others do while I was a student, but I still stand firm in my belief that this game is going to draw a large amount of spectators.

I'm tired of grown people playing the "I am right, you are wrong" game like children. What is so hard about listening to what other people have to say, trying to gain an understanding of why they feel the way they feel, and discussing it like adults?

Why not try to understand WHY Ford feels SC State should be allotted more tickets? After reading some of these posts, I can see why some people believe that State shouldn't get more tickets. I UNDERSTAND the counter-argument, and I respect their stance. It doesn't really change my stance, but I can respect what others are saying.

Why can't some of you do the same thing? What's the problem?

Step out of your bubbles and realize that there's a whole world out there filled with people who have opinions that are diverse and might not be the same as yours.

Girl, you are wasting your time.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by Phasad1913
Girl, you are wasting your time.

Isn't that an Alpha?