Pikes at Howard Update

[Erik P Conard]

You are shooting your mouth off about something you have a
selective memory of...sure, there were traditional black fraternitiess in the 20s...were they on predominantly black campi,
and did they have any housing, size or presence?
The anger, the rage, the continuing claims that us whities today
must pay...well, I have paid enough. My table has been open and
several have dined and will continue. But the whiners and those
who will not join us...can go hungry.

[mulattogyrl]

GC is a microcosm of how we get along in the real world.

[valkyrie]

Originally posted by Erik P Conard
The anger, the rage, the continuing claims that us whities today
must pay...well, I have paid enough. My table has been open and
several have dined and will continue. But the whiners and those
who will not join us...can go hungry.

I'm white and your posts make me angry.

[Erik P Conard]

the so-called "clause" addressed "White Christian Males" and
was not solely referring to people of color. Jews, hispanics,
atheists, some places foreign students, hawaiians, even
Acacia excluded non-masonic connected folks. Then there were the italian, catholic, mormon, lutheran, farmers, gosh, a lot of the
things young people do not even know today
Why can't Pike enter Howard without all this vituperous and hateful rhetoric? Everyone who considers seriously the word bigot will admit that it is a wide pronouncement. There are sure
a lot of phonies and liars in here, perhaps even idiots...

[AChiOhSnap]

Originally posted by Erik P Conard

The anger, the rage, the continuing claims that us whities today
must pay...well, I have paid enough. My table has been open and
several have dined and will continue. But the whiners and those
who will not join us...can go hungry.

Please stop using "us" in reference to you and the white community. Leave me out of this. There is no "us." I do not feel the same way as you do. Don't assume that I share your biases.

[starang21]

Originally posted by mulattogyrl
GC is a microcosm of how we get along in the real world.

LOL

[UKDaisy]

Originally posted by mulattogyrl
GC is a microcosm of how we get along in the real world.

Ain't that the truth.

I saw this thread on the opening page of gc. That must look great to new comers.

My ex-bf would love you Eric. And I don't mean that to be mean at all......it's just what you just said....I swear he has said in lesser-dumber words.

By the way, I'm not taking sides....

[starang21]

Originally posted by saetex
hahahah, the Straight Out of Compton party was great.

you would think so.

[teena]

Originally posted by mulattogyrl
GC is a microcosm of how we get along in the real world.

TRUE

[jubilance1922]

Originally posted by Erik P Conard
You are shooting your mouth off about something you have a
selective memory of...sure, there were traditional black fraternitiess in the 20s...were they on predominantly black campi,
and did they have any housing, size or presence?
The anger, the rage, the continuing claims that us whities today
must pay...well, I have paid enough. My table has been open and
several have dined and will continue. But the whiners and those
who will not join us...can go hungry.

Actually, the campus that I was referring to earlier is the Univ. of Minnesota, which is clearly not a black campus. In fact, 2 NPHC fraternities were founded on PWI campuses: Cornell and Indiana Univ. So miss me with your Black campus bit.

And last time I checked, having housing did not tell if a fraternity was important or not, especially NPHC orgs. We weren't founded to hang around at the house and throw parties, we were founded to better our communities.

You seem to think that you can be ignorant and say whatever you want and that people won't have comments. I'm not angry at PiKA, TKE or anyone else. I'm angry at YOU because you continue to talk out the side of neck. You are the not the end-all be-all when it comes to greek life or history in this country.

[OhioCentaur]

I hear them poodles make great companions til you piss them off....

[FeeFee]

Originally posted by jubilance1922
Actually, the campus that I was referring to earlier is the Univ. of Minnesota, which is clearly not a black campus. In fact, 2 NPHC fraternities were founded on PWI campuses: Cornell and Indiana Univ. So miss me with your Black campus bit.

And last time I checked, having housing did not tell if a fraternity was important or not, especially NPHC orgs. We weren't founded to hang around at the house and throw parties, we were founded to better our communities.

You seem to think that you can be ignorant and say whatever you want and that people won't have comments. I'm not angry at PiKA, TKE or anyone else. I'm angry at YOU because you continue to talk out the side of neck. You are the not the end-all be-all when it comes to greek life or history in this country.

Dear Jubilance:

I *heart* you.

Yours in Greekdom,
FeeFee

[OhioCentaur]

Originally posted by FeeFee
Dear Jubilance:

I *heart* you.

Yours in Greekdom,
FeeFee

I second that motion!

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by Alpha Chi Emily
Please stop using "us" in reference to you and the white community. Leave me out of this. There is no "us." I do not feel the same way as you do. Don't assume that I share your biases.

Your post is an important post. The issue at the root of this thread is a structural and cultural issue. It really isn't about "us" versus "them," anyway. There is no individual-level blame so it isn't about "white people" being responsible for anything.

[Lady Pi Phi]

Originally posted by jubilance1922
...And last time I checked, having housing did not tell if a fraternity was important or not, especially NPHC orgs. We weren't founded to hang around at the house and throw parties, we were founded to better our communities...

Yes, but you have to remember that in Erik's little world, you aren't a real fraternity/sorority and you aren't worthy of existence unless you have hundereds of members per chapter and a house.