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Old 01-06-2006, 06:11 PM
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I gotta ask though... as seen other threads; ie. the too 'white' too 'black' thread; do you see the anti-intellectualism issue as solely a 'black' vs 'white' issue? Or as an issue of people getting upset because they think someone is acting superior?

The reason I ask - somewhat inelegantly - is that I'm wondering how much of the "better" man is based on a 'white american' ideal - ie. the "melting-pot"; and how much is predicated by some level of envy of any "success"?

Basically - even though I can't identify with it - I think that Spike has a very valid point: success is the best way to change a system rigged against you, because even if it doesn't highlight the stupidity of the system at least it puts you in a position to change it somehow.
I found this article interesting:

College divide threatens to keep poor in poverty

Pretty much sums up what I was going to say... But in a more coherent way.
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Old 01-06-2006, 06:28 PM
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I see several different distinctions being made here and I have some questions to gain insight and clarity into the subject:

What is the difference between being accomplished versus successful? Is there a difference and if not, why not?

Is success measured in monetary value in the 21st century? Does it really matter in the "grand scheme of things"? Because really, it all comes down to it, you will be born into this world and the only way you are going to get out of it is die out of this world.

And my question is not meant to bring up some "moral code" here, because I do not operate on that wavelength. It is more a "spiritual pursuit" of mine and what the Universe is calling. Remember, many ancient African cultures believed that good and evil are just opposites sides of a coin... So are really that much different than our African ancestors' thinking from long ago?

I would like to hear some perspectives that I either I am missing or haven't considered before...
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Old 01-07-2006, 11:35 PM
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Is success measured in monetary value in the 21st century?
According to the American culture of individualism, merit, and "dream." There are also gender and race schemas that fit into America's view of success.

I, however, measure success based on happiness, well being, and contribution. I chose my occupation based on what I can contribute and whether I could be happy doing the work that I do. I may never make a butt-load of money but I'll make enough to not be in debt, take care of my family, and to feed my shopping addiction.
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Old 01-09-2006, 04:22 PM
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I found this article interesting:

College divide threatens to keep poor in poverty

Pretty much sums up what I was going to say... But in a more coherent way.
I skimmed this article and was left with a lot of questions. I will read it in detail and provide a response. However, my initial reaction is that its okay for a college degree to help propel families to middle class but I see the biggest problem being that many that have aspirations don't fulfill them or even many of those that DO enroll never finish. Some college <> College degree.
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